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highplainsdem

(57,023 posts)
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 01:43 PM Jun 23

Brilliant and very watchable video on how AI-generated channels are destroying YouTube. My thanks to marble falls

for sending this to me. The YT channel this is on was co-founded by James Pumphrey, an actor and influencer formerly with Donut Media - https://www.theautopian.com/james-pumphrey-is-out-at-donut-media-as-private-equity-continues-to-scare-off-talent/ - who ran across some of the same serious problems caused by generative AI that I've been warning about here, and who was able to get nearly 3/4 of a million views on YT for his warning, Fake Car Channels Are Ruining Youtube.



I'm glad he touched on other harm done by genAI as well, but the damage being done to YouTube can't be overemphasized. And all the AI slop on YouTube, besides wasting people's time and taking views away from real people posting worthwhile videos, can also be doing a lot of harm with misinformation and disinformation. This garbage should not be allowed to pollute the internet, but AI companies including those that own platforms are trying to dominate the online world.
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Brilliant and very watchable video on how AI-generated channels are destroying YouTube. My thanks to marble falls (Original Post) highplainsdem Jun 23 OP
"AI-generated channels are destroying YouTube. thanks to marble falls" That's the way dyslexia saw it four times ... marble falls Jun 23 #1
LOL (and oh noes) - but I was clearly (I thought) thanking you for the brilliant and very watchable video, and I have highplainsdem Jun 23 #4
Either way it's funny, as well as an honor to be recognized. Thankyou! Dyslexia has given me so many laughs in my ... marble falls Jun 23 #7
You're managing better than I probably could have. And I wanted to give you recognition for finding highplainsdem Jun 23 #11
😂🤣😂🤣😂 mahina Jun 23 #5
Fake classical music, mostly from China I believe, is spoiling the span of YouTube files offering classical music audio. John1956PA Jun 23 #2
It's always on the tip of recognition. Its almost soporific. marble falls Jun 23 #8
Could you link to one of the YT channels posting the fake classical music? When I searched just now highplainsdem Jun 23 #12
Here is a link to a YouTube file which I believe constitutes AI-generated "music." John1956PA Jun 23 #15
Thanks! It really doesn't sound right. Definitely too fast. And I noticed that they misspelled highplainsdem Jun 23 #17
Vivisecting others' old videos and repackaging them was already ruining YouTube bucolic_frolic Jun 23 #3
That's the problem with needing content and depending on third parties to deliver it. Like heroin addiction actually. marble falls Jun 23 #10
AI is doing more damage to YouTube faster, though. And both Facebook and LinkedIn are drowning highplainsdem Jun 23 #13
Kick SheltieLover Jun 23 #6
Thanks! highplainsdem Jun 23 #14
Yw! SheltieLover Jun 23 #22
I have been thinking about this a lot lately Johnny2X2X Jun 23 #9
There's still so much good stuff on YouTube that I'd hate to lose it completely. But I've reached the highplainsdem Jun 23 #18
Thank you for sharing this. FemDemERA Jun 23 #16
You're very welcome! Thanks for the reply! highplainsdem Jun 23 #19
wow! absolutely brilliant! bluboid Jun 23 #20
You're very welcome - but marble falls deserves most of the thanks for it being posted here, since highplainsdem Jun 23 #24
I'll watch the video later on canetoad Jun 23 #21
I'd love to have some trustworthy statistics on how many AI-generated videos have been added to highplainsdem Jun 23 #25
AI isn't just destroying YouTube. WestMichRad Jun 23 #23
Well, I'm glad you found the thread, and glad to see a reply from you! highplainsdem Jun 23 #28
YouTube has been extremely lax in doing anything about these types of channels... appmanga Jun 23 #26
I watched video of that John Oliver show after it was mentioned in a reply in another thread on highplainsdem Jun 23 #27
Drives me mad canetoad Jun 24 #29

marble falls

(66,658 posts)
1. "AI-generated channels are destroying YouTube. thanks to marble falls" That's the way dyslexia saw it four times ...
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 01:48 PM
Jun 23

... of course I was laughing almost to tears on the three repeats.

highplainsdem

(57,023 posts)
4. LOL (and oh noes) - but I was clearly (I thought) thanking you for the brilliant and very watchable video, and I have
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 02:02 PM
Jun 23

no way of knowing how that might be read by anyone who's dyslexic.

I just wanted to credit you for the find, and for sending it to me.

marble falls

(66,658 posts)
7. Either way it's funny, as well as an honor to be recognized. Thankyou! Dyslexia has given me so many laughs in my ...
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 02:19 PM
Jun 23

... life. Everything looks right and wrong at the same time. It's made me brave and embarrassed me.

highplainsdem

(57,023 posts)
11. You're managing better than I probably could have. And I wanted to give you recognition for finding
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 02:58 PM
Jun 23

what I think is probably the most entertaining video on the harm done by generative AI that I've ever seen. I've posted a lot of videos about genAI here, like the one from British musician Fil Henley that I posted in Music Appreciation this morning

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1034146987

which I hope people will watch. And I've copied a lot of articles and social media posts about AI here, and some of those were very entertaining. But I'd never seen anything that gave such an entertaining and funny overview of how harmful AI slop - genAI content - really is.

John1956PA

(4,245 posts)
2. Fake classical music, mostly from China I believe, is spoiling the span of YouTube files offering classical music audio.
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 01:57 PM
Jun 23

highplainsdem

(57,023 posts)
12. Could you link to one of the YT channels posting the fake classical music? When I searched just now
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 03:16 PM
Jun 23

for classical music on YT, what I saw first were videos that named famous composers, though many were recent videos made with AI art and video generators. Then when I looked at one, the YT recommendations beside it included this

https://youtube.com/@TranquilBirdMelodies

which is not bird song, but hundreds of videos with AI music and AI animation of birds (all with umbrellas) posted in the last 9 months.

John1956PA

(4,245 posts)
15. Here is a link to a YouTube file which I believe constitutes AI-generated "music."
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 03:42 PM
Jun 23
&list=RDA1rQwFQ7yZw&start_radio=1

The introductory verbiage implies the audio consists of recordings of orchestral performances of works by beloved composers of centuries ago. To me, the audio (supposedly strings) sounds more like the interior of a bees' nest. It is repetitive and very fast paced.

If you click the "Transcript" button on the YouTube page, you will find listings presented in some tonal language such a Chinese.

I think the YouTube file is designed to generate clicks for monetary and some other nefarious purposes.

highplainsdem

(57,023 posts)
17. Thanks! It really doesn't sound right. Definitely too fast. And I noticed that they misspelled
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 04:30 PM
Jun 23
memory as well.

I just posted a thread about more AI slop that will be flooding YouTube soon: https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220425726

bucolic_frolic

(51,132 posts)
3. Vivisecting others' old videos and repackaging them was already ruining YouTube
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 01:58 PM
Jun 23

Sometimes the titles don't match the content. Tired of shorts. It's all about clicks. 1000 clicks means a dime. Most prolific YTbers can make $60,000 a month.

But then I hate the cliquish Facebook, and the sluggish Linked In. Some media personalities populate more than a dozen apps. Don't want to miss a click.

I think the whole thing collapses of its own weight. I literally cannot absorb any more information. My week is drowning in webinars

marble falls

(66,658 posts)
10. That's the problem with needing content and depending on third parties to deliver it. Like heroin addiction actually.
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 02:32 PM
Jun 23

highplainsdem

(57,023 posts)
13. AI is doing more damage to YouTube faster, though. And both Facebook and LinkedIn are drowning
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 03:29 PM
Jun 23

in AI slop, with people on those platforms pushed to use AI. Didn't really surprise me with Facebook, but did with LinkedIn. Unfortunately they also wanted to generate more and more content so they encouraged people to use text generators to write.

Johnny2X2X

(23,012 posts)
9. I have been thinking about this a lot lately
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 02:32 PM
Jun 23

Perhaps the internet is going to become totally useless for most things soon. I mean, you'll still be able to shop on it, find directions, read about a place you are going, but for things like news, current events, and even facts on science and medicine, it is kind of in a decaying spiral that will be sending people elsewhere soon.

Traditional media needs to reinvent itself to fill the gap we're about to see.

highplainsdem

(57,023 posts)
18. There's still so much good stuff on YouTube that I'd hate to lose it completely. But I've reached the
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 04:39 PM
Jun 23

point where for a lot of things I prefer to see videos that were uploaded before genAI was available.

We definitely could use an option to weed out all AI-generated videos.

FemDemERA

(526 posts)
16. Thank you for sharing this.
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 04:11 PM
Jun 23

I don’t watch a lot of YouTube videos but this was well worth the time!

bluboid

(795 posts)
20. wow! absolutely brilliant!
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 06:35 PM
Jun 23

Thank you for posting this for the world to see - & thank you to the video creators. brilliant!

highplainsdem

(57,023 posts)
24. You're very welcome - but marble falls deserves most of the thanks for it being posted here, since
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 08:27 PM
Jun 23

I hadn't heard about it and wouldn't have known about it if he hadn't sent me a note this morning.

canetoad

(19,229 posts)
21. I'll watch the video later on
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 07:37 PM
Jun 23

But yeah, I see those channels and they are repulsive. From the tacky mass produced pictures to the fake likes and comments. Best I can do is click on "Don't recomment this channel", hoping that someone gets the message.

One example of fake 'classical' music is the rise of historical photos presented as stills and compiled into a video. As a backing track there is a sort of free-form piano music; vaguely classical in style but not any known piece. It's really raucous and annoying.

highplainsdem

(57,023 posts)
25. I'd love to have some trustworthy statistics on how many AI-generated videos have been added to
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 08:34 PM
Jun 23

YouTube and how many views they're getting - and how much attention non-AI videos and channels might've lost. Because YouTube viewers' attention is limited, and all the AI crap has to be taking views from better videos.

WestMichRad

(2,382 posts)
23. AI isn't just destroying YouTube.
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 07:55 PM
Jun 23

It’s polluting the internet with garbage, as they point out in this video. There’s always been misinformation and disinformation out there, but there will come the time when it’s very difficult for intelligent people to distinguish between accurate information and bullshit.

I’m heeding one of his points of advice: get off the internet (as much as practicable). It’s actually quite remarkable that I even found this thread.
Bye bye.

appmanga

(1,193 posts)
26. YouTube has been extremely lax in doing anything about these types of channels...
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 08:55 PM
Jun 23

...including channels that create totally fictional stories about public figures like Jasmine Crockett and Peyton Manning, and hide the fact the stories are made up in the "Views" banner while otherwise touting these pieces of disinformation as "real life stories". This crap is no better than the nonsense put out by Q-Anon or North Korean state TV.

John Oliver's program the other night focused on "AI Slop", and while I have yet to watch the video, I'd be unsurprised if this kind of thing is part of his coverage.

highplainsdem

(57,023 posts)
27. I watched video of that John Oliver show after it was mentioned in a reply in another thread on
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 09:04 PM
Jun 23

AI slop that I posted today, and then I posted the video in a third thread on the subject:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220425893

I agree completely about the disinformation online, much of it AI-generated, being very harmful.

canetoad

(19,229 posts)
29. Drives me mad
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 05:06 AM
Jun 24

But youtube has no clear mechanism to report or censure this crap. The videos sensationalising an imaginary celebrity death often turn their comments off so they still get clicks. And youtube is no better; they hide the number of 'thumbs down' to further distort the true state of video popularity.

Remember those two fresh faced guys who ingenously posed and announced, "Don't be evil"? Those lying feckers are at the bottom of the collapse of society as we know it.

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