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RandySF

(75,604 posts)
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 03:07 AM Jun 23

CA-GOV: Harris gives California governor's race a serious look

Kamala Harris is leaning toward entering the California gubernatorial race, sources familiar with the former vice president’s thinking tell The Hill.

While the sources caution that Harris hasn’t made a final decision yet and is still considering all her options, they say she has made it clear that she is not done with public service and is giving the race strong consideration.

Those who have spoken to Harris about the possibility of entering the race say it has given her a renewed sense of excitement and, as one source put it, “a glimmer in her eyes.”
“She has a lot of people in her ear telling her that it makes the most sense and she can do the most good,” said one source who has spoken to Harris about a potential run.



https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/5361287-harris-governor-race-decision-timing/

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CA-GOV: Harris gives California governor's race a serious look (Original Post) RandySF Jun 23 OP
Our nation's loss is California's gain. W_HAMILTON Jun 23 #1
And, Why Not.. if that's what Kamala Harris Cha Jun 23 #2
Katie Porter will drop out of the race if VP Harris runs. Celerity Jun 23 #3
NO SSJVegeta Jun 23 #4
Why? Auggie Jun 23 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author SSJVegeta Jun 23 #6
It doesn't work that way obamanut2012 Jun 23 #11
It would if we were more of a democracy SSJVegeta Jun 23 #13
Sounds like you want it dictated RandySF Jun 23 #20
Actually I think I prefer Harris SSJVegeta Jun 23 #22
It literally doesn't work that way -- you seem to want it to NOT be fair obamanut2012 Jun 23 #42
Porter has signaled she will drop out of the race if Harris runs SSJVegeta Jun 23 #48
Kamala might be the better candidate Renew Deal Jun 23 #15
Agreed. SSJVegeta Jun 23 #17
I also saw somehwhere how Porter will drop out if Harris wins SSJVegeta Jun 23 #25
Porter also had her chance. She got third in the statewide Senate race. tinrobot Jun 23 #21
Fair point. SSJVegeta Jun 23 #26
I like her but Porter made a terrible misstep. I hope she re-ignites her political career and maybe the coming Midterms OnDoutside Jun 23 #28
What do you think her misstep was? SSJVegeta Jun 23 #29
I thought she should have stayed in the House and continued to do what she was garnering great kudos for, holding OnDoutside Jun 23 #30
I think youre right. Might be tough to come back from that. SSJVegeta Jun 23 #31
Yes, I can't imagine she made too many friends, which is a pity because she is so clever. OnDoutside Jun 23 #34
So women running for office only get one shot? mcar Jun 23 #35
Thats a weird interpretation SSJVegeta Jun 23 #37
That si what you said, though -- since she's already held state offices, too bad obamanut2012 Jun 23 #43
What I clarified with is what I intended to say. SSJVegeta Jun 23 #45
Why does Porter get a second shot at holding office mcar Jun 23 #46
Where the heck did i say she should be banned from running?? SSJVegeta Jun 23 #47
You deleted your statement so I can't refer to it mcar Jun 23 #49
Yeah I deleted it cause people seemed to get the wrong idea from it. SSJVegeta Jun 23 #50
If Katie Porter wants her chance, she'll have to earn it calguy Jun 23 #38
Maybe. I dont know. SSJVegeta Jun 23 #7
I live here, yes obamanut2012 Jun 23 #10
We need whoever can win CA kkmarie Jun 23 #8
Literally any Democrat will win California these days Sympthsical Jun 23 #18
do you think a Black woman is not capable of taking us in a new direction? cadoman Jun 23 #23
Very fair point OnDoutside Jun 23 #27
Sorry I don't vote solely based on a candidate's race or gender fujiyamasan Jun 23 #32
Winsome Sears is a clinically insane, KKK apologist, school shooter in the making cadoman Jun 24 #55
Hence my point fujiyamasan Jun 24 #66
I do not vote identity. I vote policy. Sympthsical Jun 23 #39
if a Black woman can't be elected as Governor in the most Democratic state in the country... cadoman Jun 24 #54
She would be elected if she ran. So what's your argument? Sympthsical Jun 24 #56
I love Kamala! I love Katie! kkmarie Jun 23 #9
As a Californian, it seemed like it was always Schiff's to lose. tinrobot Jun 23 #24
I agree Unwind Your Mind Jun 24 #61
Oh Jesus help us Prairie Gates Jun 23 #12
What do you mean by that? mcar Jun 23 #36
As a Californian, I hope she runs, sorry you don't like her obamanut2012 Jun 23 #40
She should do it Renew Deal Jun 23 #14
Nope Sympthsical Jun 23 #16
Also my state, and I hope she runs obamanut2012 Jun 23 #41
And nothing will change Sympthsical Jun 23 #44
Weren't you just up further in this thread saying you vote for policy and not identity? W_HAMILTON Jun 24 #62
Status quo is a description of policy Sympthsical Jun 24 #63
CA Prominence Starbeach Jun 23 #19
I really hope she decides against it fujiyamasan Jun 23 #33
Oh, okay MorbidButterflyTat Jun 23 #51
Would governor be a step down from the VP spot? Bayard Jun 23 #52
Would governor be a step down from the VP spot? Bayard Jun 23 #53
John Quincy Adams served in the House after being President Kaleva Jun 24 #57
I did not know that Bayard Jun 24 #58
One of the very few presidents to do something like that Kaleva Jun 24 #60
No, we are the 4th largest economy in the world, too obamanut2012 Jun 24 #59
if it's a step down it's a very small one cadoman Jun 24 #64
From VP SocialDemocrat61 Jun 24 #65

Cha

(312,539 posts)
2. And, Why Not.. if that's what Kamala Harris
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 03:29 AM
Jun 23

decides is best for her, California and the World!

Mahalo, RSF

Celerity

(50,621 posts)
3. Katie Porter will drop out of the race if VP Harris runs.
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 03:30 AM
Jun 23
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/11/us/politics/katie-porter-california-governor.html

snip

After losing the presidential election in November, Ms. Harris returned home to Los Angeles and has contemplated a run for California governor. Ms. Porter will drop out of the race if Ms. Harris runs, a spokesman said.

In the interview on Tuesday, Ms. Porter said that Ms. Harris would have “a powerful, field-clearing effect” for Democrats in the race, and that she has long been a supporter of the former vice president. In 2012, when Ms. Harris was California’s attorney general, she appointed Ms. Porter to monitor a legal settlement with major banks over the foreclosure crisis.


Response to Auggie (Reply #5)

SSJVegeta

(1,010 posts)
13. It would if we were more of a democracy
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 08:25 AM
Jun 23

And not dictated by name recognition and disproportional resources.

SSJVegeta

(1,010 posts)
22. Actually I think I prefer Harris
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 11:01 AM
Jun 23



On edit:...or Villaragosa TBH. My primary issue is expanding public transit. Villaragosa and Harris have proven themselves on those issues, I think, more than Porter.

But I do believe in that principle pertaining to a more even playing field, nonetheless.

obamanut2012

(28,588 posts)
42. It literally doesn't work that way -- you seem to want it to NOT be fair
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 01:09 PM
Jun 23

Why?

She has held several state and local offices in CA already. And excelled.

SSJVegeta

(1,010 posts)
48. Porter has signaled she will drop out of the race if Harris runs
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 02:07 PM
Jun 23

More candidates are better than fewer candidates. At the very least I simply dont want Porter to drop out

Renew Deal

(84,195 posts)
15. Kamala might be the better candidate
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 08:54 AM
Jun 23

It would be a tough break for Porter to run into another big Dem name, but that’s how it goes sometimes.

SSJVegeta

(1,010 posts)
17. Agreed.
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 09:33 AM
Jun 23

As i said in my follow up post, I really like her previous positions and support for public transit and high speed rail. Those are by far among my top issues as a Californian. That being said, Porter is also very supportive of public transit, but has thrown cold water on hsr, which im not happy with.

SSJVegeta

(1,010 posts)
25. I also saw somehwhere how Porter will drop out if Harris wins
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 11:11 AM
Jun 23

Thats part of why I said "no" as my knee jerk reaction. Since I think more democracy is better than less democracy. Between the two Im definitely leaning towards Harris for now.

tinrobot

(11,603 posts)
21. Porter also had her chance. She got third in the statewide Senate race.
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 10:58 AM
Jun 23

Harris has won all of her statewide California elections, including the last one for California's electoral votes.

I'm going with the proven winner.

OnDoutside

(20,849 posts)
28. I like her but Porter made a terrible misstep. I hope she re-ignites her political career and maybe the coming Midterms
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 11:36 AM
Jun 23

might offer a chance for her to comeback.

SSJVegeta

(1,010 posts)
29. What do you think her misstep was?
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 11:44 AM
Jun 23

Personally I dont like that she is lukewarm at best with high speed rail. Whereas Harris fought for the funds as a Senator.

OnDoutside

(20,849 posts)
30. I thought she should have stayed in the House and continued to do what she was garnering great kudos for, holding
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 11:51 AM
Jun 23

Republicans and allied chancers to account. She should never have gone for the Senate seat, it was way too soon. I feel she rubbed too many House Dems up the wrong way, and I would contrast her exploits with AOC.

OnDoutside

(20,849 posts)
34. Yes, I can't imagine she made too many friends, which is a pity because she is so clever.
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 12:18 PM
Jun 23

SSJVegeta

(1,010 posts)
37. Thats a weird interpretation
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 12:33 PM
Jun 23

😒 🤔

The meaning of my comment is that it takes Porters shot away if Harris runs. (It is reported that Porter will drop out if Harris declares)

mcar

(44,862 posts)
46. Why does Porter get a second shot at holding office
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 02:03 PM
Jun 23

but Harris should be banned from running for something again? That makes no sense.

It's not Porter's "turn."

SSJVegeta

(1,010 posts)
47. Where the heck did i say she should be banned from running??
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 02:05 PM
Jun 23

My gosh. I do not believe that in the slightest.

mcar

(44,862 posts)
49. You deleted your statement so I can't refer to it
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 02:11 PM
Jun 23

I see that you have clarified it some. Thanks.

SSJVegeta

(1,010 posts)
50. Yeah I deleted it cause people seemed to get the wrong idea from it.
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 02:13 PM
Jun 23

How many interpreted it was far from what I intended. I appreciate your kindness.

calguy

(5,937 posts)
38. If Katie Porter wants her chance, she'll have to earn it
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 12:41 PM
Jun 23

As far as I’m concerned, Katie blew up her promising political career by her bone-headed decision to run against Adam Schiff for the Senate.

SSJVegeta

(1,010 posts)
7. Maybe. I dont know.
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 06:09 AM
Jun 23

I actually really like her stance on public transit. Which is largely my number one issue. So maybe I could get behind her... 🤔

kkmarie

(226 posts)
8. We need whoever can win CA
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 06:48 AM
Jun 23

I love Kamala! I love Katie!
Not being from CA I didn't follow the CA senate race that Katie was a candidate. Searching for info I found the OLD democratic guard didn't want Katie to win. And threw all their weight (pelosi) on getting Schiff elected.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/11/us/politics/katie-porter-california-governor.html

I have no opinion I just found Katie's last run interesting, with the alleged games played by the democrats.

Basically I'm just typing out loud and wondering what others are thinking.

Again, I think, the only goal we should have is to make sure CA is won by a democrat.

Sympthsical

(10,718 posts)
18. Literally any Democrat will win California these days
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 09:40 AM
Jun 23

Anyone at all.

If Harris runs, the party will clear the path for her.

Same ole entrenched power. Nothing revelatory. Nothing interesting. Nothing new.

We need a new direction. I won't vote for another decade of same old shit.

cadoman

(1,398 posts)
23. do you think a Black woman is not capable of taking us in a new direction?
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 11:04 AM
Jun 23

Do you notice a pattern here?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_governors_of_California

You have to be out of your mind to think that Harris would not bring something new to the table, on multiple levels: gender and race.

fujiyamasan

(350 posts)
32. Sorry I don't vote solely based on a candidate's race or gender
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 11:57 AM
Jun 23

By that logic, voters in Virginia should support winsome sears. Why not? She’s a black woman. I’m sure shes capable of moving that state in a different direction. It may be the wrong direction, but it is new.



cadoman

(1,398 posts)
55. Winsome Sears is a clinically insane, KKK apologist, school shooter in the making
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 09:26 AM
Jun 24

I don't think she's comparable to Kamala in any way.

:large

fujiyamasan

(350 posts)
66. Hence my point
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 08:38 PM
Jun 24

Voting based on identity alone is ridiculous.

If you want to make the point that Kamala is the best candidate for governor, by all means go ahead. Point to her proposed policies, her record as AG, senator, and VP.

She has already been elected several times state wide. I don’t think her race or gender will play a role in the primaries, at least I sure hope not.

At this point, personally I’d prefer someone else for multiple reasons. I’m willing to keep an open mind and look at all of the candidates based on their respective merits (and no, their race and gender will not be a factor one way or the other).

Sympthsical

(10,718 posts)
39. I do not vote identity. I vote policy.
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 12:44 PM
Jun 23

These are public servants. They are not celebrities, and I am bored stiff by people who behave more like fans than citizens.

There are people who think if the identity is diverse, then the policies will be. Well, we have sufficient experience by 2025 to know that politicians of different gender and racial identities will happily play ball with monied interests and the status quo just as easily and readily as any white male.

I am interested in ideas.

Remember when President Obama quite infamously said, "I am the change!" when asked what changes he intended to bring in policy?

Identity is not policy. It is not a qualification. It is not telling me what you want to do differently. It does not explain to me why I should trust you with power. If I voted strictly on identity, I'd be voting for every LGBT candidate who came along.

I do not do that either.

cadoman

(1,398 posts)
54. if a Black woman can't be elected as Governor in the most Democratic state in the country...
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 09:23 AM
Jun 24

Then what exactly are we doing here? She was our Presidential candidate and frankly spun circles around Joe in terms of campaign effectiveness. Why wouldn't you want her and her ideas to lead CA?

Do you realize that the MAGAT fiefdoms of Alabama and Arkansas actually have more diversity in their governorship than we do?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_governors_of_Alabama

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_governors_of_Arkansas

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_governors_of_California

If we can't vote for a Black woman in CA, then what credibility do we calling out the racists and misogynists who didn't turn out for Harris in 2024?

Sympthsical

(10,718 posts)
56. She would be elected if she ran. So what's your argument?
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 11:41 AM
Jun 24

I don't think anyone in California believes she wouldn't practically be elected by acclaim in this state if she ran. She'd certainly win the primary.

I'm discussing my vote and my preference. And my preference is that I'd rather look at other options. And many of the people whose names have floated around are not male or not white. Anthony Villaraigosa, Betty Yee, Katie Porter, Eleni Kounalakis.

In fact, if we were taking odds, I think our next governor is more likely to be a woman.

You seem to be saying the only diversity that counts for you is if it is a Black woman. That other women or other ethnic minorities aren't diverse enough for your tastes.

Which is a little . . . weird. It's weird. It's a little . . . racist maybe? Particularly when you consider this state is a plurality Latino, and we haven't had a Latino governor in 150 years. Hell, we just got our first Latino senator in Alex Padilla.

Where's our AAPI representation? This state is three times more AAPI than Black (roughly 15% vs. 5% respectively).

I truly do not understand your argument. In a state as diverse as ours, and with so many Democratic options out there, you're making a very strange argument that unless the candidate is one specific identity, everyone's kind of being racist in some way.

It's an argument I find in itself racist. Sorry. It kind of is.

kkmarie

(226 posts)
9. I love Kamala! I love Katie!
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 07:05 AM
Jun 23

Not being from CA I didn't follow the CA senate race that Katie was a candidate. Searching for info I found the OLD democratic guard didn't want Katie to win. And threw all their weight (pelosi) on getting Schiff elected.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/11/us/politics/katie-porter-california-governor.html

And even though I'm not in CA and would love to see Kamala in the job. Another part is telling me Katie is the better option.

Basically I'm just typing out loud and wondering what others are thinking.


tinrobot

(11,603 posts)
24. As a Californian, it seemed like it was always Schiff's to lose.
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 11:11 AM
Jun 23

He was much more of a leader in the House. He took on Trump directly as chair of the Intelligence Committee and as an impeachment manager. He had the resume points.

Katie was more the type that threw grenades from the sidelines. Staying in her swing-district house seat would have served California and the nation better. That seat got filled by a republican, putting us one vote further away from a majority.

Unwind Your Mind

(2,277 posts)
61. I agree
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 01:08 PM
Jun 24

I’m a Californian too and I’m hardly old guard

I supported Schiff because he had the experience and was so excellent in the impeachment hearings

I like Katie, I wish she was still in Congress

And, I’m sure she can have a meaningful job in Harris’ administration if she wants it

Sympthsical

(10,718 posts)
44. And nothing will change
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 01:12 PM
Jun 23

And that's fine if people are fine with that.

But when the usual complaints about Sacramento come along, I'll just roll my eyes.

W_HAMILTON

(9,238 posts)
62. Weren't you just up further in this thread saying you vote for policy and not identity?
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 01:55 PM
Jun 24

Yet here you are, not one word about policy, but rejecting Kamala outright because of her "status quo" identity?

Sympthsical

(10,718 posts)
63. Status quo is a description of policy
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 01:58 PM
Jun 24

Unless there's a brand new identity that's been crafted from whole cloth while I wasn't looking. Which, hey, given how goofy everything else in this vein is, I will not dismiss that possibility out of hand.

Could that make me quo-ist?

So many possibilities to be pointlessly had.

fujiyamasan

(350 posts)
33. I really hope she decides against it
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 12:03 PM
Jun 23

I just hope this time there’s a vigorous primary in this state for the nomination.

MorbidButterflyTat

(3,228 posts)
51. Oh, okay
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 02:21 PM
Jun 23

"...sources familiar with the former vice president’s thinking..."

"Those who have spoken to Harris about the possibility of entering the race say it has given her.... 'a glimmer in her eyes.'”

The eye glimmer proves it!!



Bayard

(25,781 posts)
52. Would governor be a step down from the VP spot?
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 02:25 PM
Jun 23

Although getting admin experience would be a real plus.

Bayard

(25,781 posts)
53. Would governor be a step down from the VP spot?
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 02:25 PM
Jun 23

Although getting admin experience would be a real plus.

Kaleva

(39,595 posts)
60. One of the very few presidents to do something like that
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 12:53 PM
Jun 24

I’ll have to check but I believe President Tyler later served in the Confederate Congress

cadoman

(1,398 posts)
64. if it's a step down it's a very small one
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 01:59 PM
Jun 24

As others have stated, CA is massive in both size and economic and moral power.

It's probably the greatest and most important state of the USA.

If Harris wishes to, she should run an "I Told You So" ticket. Always wish Hillary would have gotten that chance...

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