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vanessa_ca

(271 posts)
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 06:42 PM Jun 22

"Any Democrat who supports this war with Iran needs to be primaried" - David Hogg

David Hogg Says Any Democrat Who Supports War With Iran 'Should Be Primaried'
"Our generation grew up going through two multi-trillion dollar wars we should have never been involved in," said the youth organizer recently ousted by the DNC. "If you think this is a good idea read a history book."

By Julia Conley
Jun 17, 2025

With just a handful of Democratic lawmakers so far backing a push to prevent an overwhelmingly unpopular march to war with Iran, progressive organizer David Hogg on Tuesday said those who don't align themselves with the vast majority of Americans on the issue should face primary challenges in upcoming elections.

"Any Democrat who supports this war with Iran needs to be primaried," said Hogg, a gun control activist who briefly served as co-vice chair of the Democratic National Committee and angered leaders by pushing for primary challenges. "Our generation grew up going through two multi-trillion dollar wars we should have never been involved in. We are not fucking going back to that. If you think this is a good idea read a history book."

Hogg's comments came days after Israel launched sweeping attacks on Iran amid U.S.-Iran talks on the Middle Eastern country's nuclear development.

-snip-

Zeteo reporter Prem Thakker said Monday evening that just over 2% of members of Congress have backed legislative efforts to stop the U.S. from expanding its involvement in Israel's bombardment of Iran—even as a Brookings Institution poll showed that more than two-thirds of Americans back diplomatic talks to limit Iran's nuclear program and just 14% of Americans support military action to stop Iranian nuclear development.




-snip-

Lily Greenberg Call, a former Interior Department official who was appointed by former President Joe Biden but resigned in protest of his administration's support for Israel's assault on Gaza, condemned Democratic leaders for their "shameful fucking silence" on potential war with Iran. "Most Americans, including their base, don't want the U.S. under Trump to go to war with Iran and have been horrified at almost two years of footage of murder in Gaza," said Greenberg Call. "We won't accept this and we won't forget in '26 and '28."

Hogg demanded that Democrats unite "against Trump and his war" and pointed out that lawmakers from both sides of the aisle regularly claim that broadly popular proposals for investments in effective programs like Medicare for All and universal childcare are unaffordable.

"Where are all the 'we can't afford it' politicians," asked Hogg, "now that we're on the brink of what could be another multi-trillion dollar war?"

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"Any Democrat who supports this war with Iran needs to be primaried" - David Hogg (Original Post) vanessa_ca Jun 22 OP
DAMN RIGHT! Chasstev365 Jun 22 #1
Fetterman just did edbermac Jun 22 #2
This guy aocommunalpunch Jun 22 #8
Well, is there anyone left who DOESN'T think Fetterman should be primaried? Scrivener7 Jun 23 #40
A vanishing breed: Democrats With Spine. Chipper Chat Jun 22 #3
Bernie is an Independent. sheshe2 Jun 22 #7
An Ideal Democrat, a Real Democrat, a Super Democrat thought crime Jun 24 #66
I think you mean Chris Murphy. Intractable Jun 22 #14
Yup tks Chipper Chat Jun 22 #19
Gavin Newsome and Pete Buttigieg. Not afraid of going on Fox and kicking ass Tribetime Jun 23 #52
Tim Walz BlueKota Jun 23 #55
Ty Tribetime Jun 23 #63
Tammy Duckworth. /nt thought crime Jun 24 #67
Amen. Lets support peace, diplomacy and stand up to endless wars. Nanjeanne Jun 22 #4
Is there a list of all the Democrats... sheshe2 Jun 22 #5
Seems like too many Democratic office-holders are Jack Valentino Jun 22 #24
Moving the goal posts FHRRK Jun 22 #25
I didn't move any goal posts. sheshe2 Jun 23 #36
Fetterman needs to resign and Shapiro select Emile Jun 23 #41
I wonder what the polls will show now - after Tump's Folly? AloeVera Jun 22 #6
we will be shaking our heads in disbelief rampartd Jun 23 #37
AGREEEEEEEED! Prairie Gates Jun 22 #9
This sounds like so much BS to me mcar Jun 22 #10
mebbee bigtree Jun 22 #11
X1000 yorkster Jun 23 #61
Divisive rhetoric and eating or own always helps the GOP. Oopsie Daisy Jun 22 #12
how convenient that he is raising cash to fund his own PAC to support his views. go for it, it's allowed msongs Jun 22 #13
This know it all kid MorbidButterflyTat Jun 22 #15
we need to support EFFECTIVE Democrats Skittles Jun 22 #18
The know it all kid has the support of this retired 63 year old FHRRK Jun 23 #31
The Know-it-All Kid vs. the Do-Nothing Octogenerians Prairie Gates Jun 23 #32
Some of us Democrats are tired of the rightward shift the party has taken since Reagan AStern Jun 23 #45
There's been no rightward shift of the Democratic Party, it's the Republican Party that has shifted to the Right. betsuni Jun 23 #46
I disagree. AStern Jun 23 #47
And don't forget... Rigpa108 Jun 23 #56
unrec Intractable Jun 23 #59
When and if an American asset is struck by Iran or one its proxies... AntiFascist Jun 22 #16
he's not wrong mike_c Jun 22 #17
How about Mr Hogg focus on defeating republicans, not Democrats. Patton French Jun 22 #20
How about we realize republicans are worthless POS FHRRK Jun 22 #28
How about Democratic office-holders focusing on fighting Trump and supporting peace, Jack Valentino Jun 22 #30
Absolutely. Fuck all of this. BlueTsunami2018 Jun 22 #21
There are sharp political divisions and it's good to bring it out into the open. David__77 Jun 22 #22
I am waiting to see how much Hogg is being paid by this PAC LetMyPeopleVote Jun 22 #23
Haven't heard anything from my Michigan Democratic senators, yet... Jack Valentino Jun 23 #33
In the last cycle, only a small percentage of money raised went to candidates LetMyPeopleVote Jun 23 #34
I read something in the last day or so which said that the DNC was hurting for money... Jack Valentino Jun 23 #35
I agree with young David Hogg... Jack Valentino Jun 22 #26
What if we primaried every Democrat who voted for the war in Afghanistan? usonian Jun 22 #27
Agreed 100000% Arazi Jun 22 #29
Trump and his MAGA Republicans bomb Iran and Hogg's first thought is to go after Democrats? W_HAMILTON Jun 23 #38
He's absolutely right. Scrivener7 Jun 23 #39
The young man's not wrong. That's for damn sure. Autumn Jun 23 #42
*AIPAC has entered the chat* nt Rob H. Jun 23 #43
He's so long-winded... let's bottom-line this. Did he happen to mention WHICH Democrats "supports this war with Iran"... Oopsie Daisy Jun 23 #44
Sen Fetterman and Rep Josh Gottheimer have both stated support for Trump's bombing of Iran. progressoid Jun 23 #48
Then Hogg needs to call them out INDIVIDUALLY ... enough of this shitting on the entire Democratic party Oopsie Daisy Jun 23 #49
"Any Democrat who supports this war with Iran needs to be primaried," said Hogg progressoid Jun 23 #50
Exactly. H2O Man Jun 23 #58
NO... it's an insinuation that there are "TOO MANY TO NAME". It's broad-brush smearing. Oopsie Daisy Jun 24 #64
Exactly. The disinformation campaign is his money shot Nixie Jun 23 #62
Clearly it's more "profitable" to smear and shit on Democrats than it is to support the party. Oopsie Daisy Jun 24 #65
Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 23 #51
Yep. (n/t) Iggo Jun 23 #53
I've lost count of the number of posts saying someone's drawn up impeachment papers... buzzycrumbhunger Jun 23 #54
Yes, definitely. H2O Man Jun 23 #57
If the Republicans keep moving right... Rigpa108 Jun 23 #60
Yeah. Right where we are. In Hell. thought crime Jun 24 #68

edbermac

(16,199 posts)
2. Fetterman just did
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 06:55 PM
Jun 22


Sen. John Fetterman (D-Pa.) is offering support for President Trump’s decision to bomb Iran, standing out from a number of other Democrats who have criticized the military action.

“As I’ve long maintained, this was the correct move by @POTUS,” Fetterman wrote in a post on X that linked to a statement from Trump announcing the decision.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/fetterman-offers-support-trump-decision-015738647.html

Chipper Chat

(10,474 posts)
3. A vanishing breed: Democrats With Spine.
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 06:55 PM
Jun 22

Eric Swallwell
David Hogg
AOC
Jamie Raskin
Patrick Murphy
Dean Obidallah
Jasmine Crockett
Bernie
Elizabeth Warren
Can you name any?

sheshe2

(92,672 posts)
5. Is there a list of all the Democrats...
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 07:01 PM
Jun 22

That have come out and made statements supporting an all out war in Iran? Or perhaps Dave is just making a preemptive strike.

Jack Valentino

(2,611 posts)
24. Seems like too many Democratic office-holders are
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 11:43 PM
Jun 22

just trying to keep their mouths shut and escape notice...

FHRRK

(1,114 posts)
25. Moving the goal posts
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 11:43 PM
Jun 22

Fetterman came out supporting the bombing yesterday.

Fetterman needs to be primaried.

Do you disagree?

sheshe2

(92,672 posts)
36. I didn't move any goal posts.
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 12:23 AM
Jun 23

I never wanted Fetterman in the first place as many on DU did, FHRRK.

His story chasing a black jogger and holding him at gun point was a HUGE no for me. I was all for Conor Lamb.

He cozied up to tsf and IMHO is not a Democrat.

AloeVera

(3,161 posts)
6. I wonder what the polls will show now - after Tump's Folly?
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 07:01 PM
Jun 22

I would hope Democratic voters will be even more opposed.

Will it make a difference? It didn't for Gaza.

Feeling hopeless.

rampartd

(2,032 posts)
37. we will be shaking our heads in disbelief
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 12:32 AM
Jun 23

trumps isolationist mob will follow him and the pundits will sing the praise of dear leader's wisdom.

i'm having nightmares about the merch. .

mcar

(44,863 posts)
10. This sounds like so much BS to me
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 07:11 PM
Jun 22

AFAIK, only Fetterman has offered support for the bombing and many Democrats have spoken out.

Then we hear this:


Lily Greenberg Call, a former Interior Department official who was appointed by former President Joe Biden but resigned in protest of his administration's support for Israel's assault on Gaza, condemned Democratic leaders for their "shameful fucking silence" on potential war with Iran. "Most Americans, including their base, don't want the U.S. under Trump to go to war with Iran and have been horrified at almost two years of footage of murder in Gaza," said Greenberg Call. "We won't accept this and we won't forget in '26 and '28."


from one of the damn fools who helped get FOTUS re-elected. Nice work Lily.

bigtree

(91,825 posts)
11. mebbee
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 07:16 PM
Jun 22

...but all of this youthful exuberance doen't bother to mention one thing about a Democratic majority.

Just this shitstirring bullshit about primarying Democrats.

Myopic politics and potentially counterproductive to ending the republican majority.

I'd like to know what responsibility this young man intends to take in his campaigning to ensure he's not just handing seats to republicans, since this has the look of each and every ratfucking attack on the party in the past election cycle which did nothing but depress

...and, btw, Schumer called for an immediate vote on the WPA, so this post and what it's linking to misrepresent Sen. Schumer's position and response.

There's been no 'shameful fucking silence' from Democrats either. Get it right.

msongs

(71,663 posts)
13. how convenient that he is raising cash to fund his own PAC to support his views. go for it, it's allowed
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 07:17 PM
Jun 22

MorbidButterflyTat

(3,230 posts)
15. This know it all kid
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 08:28 PM
Jun 22

sure thinks highly of himself. Maybe he should run for office.

I think anyone who identifies as a Democrat should SUPPORT DEMOCRATS! And quit trying to constantly undermine and criticize and threaten Dems in congress.

AStern

(434 posts)
45. Some of us Democrats are tired of the rightward shift the party has taken since Reagan
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 02:15 PM
Jun 23

Conservatives will never like us so quit trying to appease them.

betsuni

(28,066 posts)
46. There's been no rightward shift of the Democratic Party, it's the Republican Party that has shifted to the Right.
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 02:20 PM
Jun 23

AStern

(434 posts)
47. I disagree.
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 02:32 PM
Jun 23

I don’t know how anyone can seriously argue that the Democratic Party hasn’t moved rightward since 1980. Yes, the GOP has gone completely off the rails, but that doesn’t mean Democrats have stayed in place. They pushed for trade deals like NAFTA that devastated manufacturing towns. They passed the 1994 crime bill, which led to mass incarceration and hit Black and brown communities the hardest. They've consistently failed to act on gun violence, despite decades of shootings. And after all the outrage over January 6th, they let Trump walk away with barely a consequence.

They like to talk progressive when it’s safe, but when they actually have power, they hesitate. Whether it’s fear of backlash or comfort with corporate interests, it’s not the same party it was in the New Deal or even the 70s. That’s a rightward shift, whether people want to admit it or not.

What I stated above isn't bashing Democrats or the party. They're facts that annoy me personally.

Rigpa108

(51 posts)
56. And don't forget...
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 10:04 PM
Jun 23

I hear a lot of complaining about how a few billionaires control the media, so don't forget the Telecommunications Act of 1996. Who ever thought that was a good idea?

AntiFascist

(13,426 posts)
16. When and if an American asset is struck by Iran or one its proxies...
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 08:38 PM
Jun 22

I suspect that Congress and moderates would rally around support for war...not that I would.

FHRRK

(1,114 posts)
28. How about we realize republicans are worthless POS
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 11:58 PM
Jun 22

And the lame ass Dems need to be smacked down, embarrassed, cut the hell off.

Now I am Californian so a bit of a different perspective, but I am fucking done with the lame excuses for people like Fetterman. We were told to stay quiet with the asshole Senators from WV and AZ.

I WILL NOT STAY QUIET WITH THE CURRENT GROUP!

I pay a shit ton in taxes, I moved to CA because of asshole Repukes in my birth State.

I am fucking done getting along, I am done with waiting for the rest of the Country to get it together.

No more excuses, the POS enables and the excuses are stale.

Fucking move or fight. But don’t tell us we need to be patient with the lame assed enablers.



Jack Valentino

(2,611 posts)
30. How about Democratic office-holders focusing on fighting Trump and supporting peace,
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 11:59 PM
Jun 22

instead of trying to hide from the issue?


Any Democrat who supports Trump's war, is NOT the best Democrat to defend his seat
in the next election

BlueTsunami2018

(4,465 posts)
21. Absolutely. Fuck all of this.
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 09:41 PM
Jun 22

They’re lying.

They’re not even bothering to change the lies from Iraq.

Belive nothing these motherfuckers say.

Nothing.

LetMyPeopleVote

(165,576 posts)
23. I am waiting to see how much Hogg is being paid by this PAC
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 11:40 PM
Jun 22

I am not a fan of David Hogg and his pac. Again, we do NOT need Hogg to tell Democrats to oppose trump and his war. Schumer, Jeffries and a ton of Democrats have already come out against trump's attack on Iran

Jack Valentino

(2,611 posts)
33. Haven't heard anything from my Michigan Democratic senators, yet...
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 12:03 AM
Jun 23

as for Hogg's PAC, do you think he should run it without being paid ???


I suspect that other Democrats with PACs have been paid much more than he has....

LetMyPeopleVote

(165,576 posts)
34. In the last cycle, only a small percentage of money raised went to candidates
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 12:06 AM
Jun 23

I will be curious to see if more money goes to candidates this cycle. I am on Hogg's email list and I find his emails to be amusing but I also enjoy laughing at the Justice Democrats emails.

Jack Valentino

(2,611 posts)
35. I read something in the last day or so which said that the DNC was hurting for money...
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 12:10 AM
Jun 23

haven't looked into any further

usonian

(18,727 posts)
27. What if we primaried every Democrat who voted for the war in Afghanistan?
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 11:58 PM
Jun 22

Last edited Mon Jun 23, 2025, 02:04 AM - Edit history (1)

There would be one standing. AND STANDING TALL


That said, of course, these people are shitheads.
Featherman first.

Whatever wins overall. But how is that determined?
Bernie and AOC are out knocking down republicans in their own red districts.

Strategy? Will there ever be a unified one?
I'm just asking, because I don't know shit about primarying candidates.

W_HAMILTON

(9,238 posts)
38. Trump and his MAGA Republicans bomb Iran and Hogg's first thought is to go after Democrats?
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 03:40 AM
Jun 23

You could remove every single Democrat that """supports""" bombing Iran and Iran would still be bombed because Democrats can't do a thing to stop it because Hogg and other "attack Democrats first" types undercut them to the point they have no political power at the federal level.

Can we replace this new breed of progressives with ones that fight for AND actually achieve progress rather than prevent it?

Autumn

(48,100 posts)
42. The young man's not wrong. That's for damn sure.
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 09:06 AM
Jun 23

That we don't have more people like him is why we can't have nice things.

Oopsie Daisy

(6,063 posts)
44. He's so long-winded... let's bottom-line this. Did he happen to mention WHICH Democrats "supports this war with Iran"...
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 01:58 PM
Jun 23

Which Democrats are not united against Trump? Or was this a generalized broad-brush shit-smearing on Democrats, Democratic leadership and the Democratic party in general?

He's definitely a gish-gallop kind of guy and his long-winded and repetitive style appears to be his way of compensating for lack of substance, or lack of a plan, etc.

progressoid

(51,541 posts)
48. Sen Fetterman and Rep Josh Gottheimer have both stated support for Trump's bombing of Iran.
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 06:34 PM
Jun 23


CONGRESSMAN JOSH GOTTHEIMER

“Tonight, the United States took critical and decisive action to protect America, and freedom and democracy at home and around the world — stopping Iran’s nuclear program in its tracks.

“Since 1979, the Iranian regime has been openly committed to the destruction of the United States of America — what they call the ‘Great Satan.’

“In support of that goal, Iran, the world’s leading sponsor of terror, has built a global network of terrorist proxies — including Hamas, Hezbollah, and the Houthis — and has relentlessly pursued a nuclear weapon. They have killed and injured scores of American civilians, targeted our service members, and attacked our key democratic allies, including Israel.

“According to the IAEA, and as recently as last week, Iran has repeatedly violated their nuclear nonproliferation obligations. Their Fordow nuclear facility was key to the success of their nuclear program. Thanks to American might and leadership, it now sits in ruin.

“The destruction of Iran’s nuclear program is essential to ultimate peace in the Middle East. This is not a Democratic or Republican issue — dealing with the Iranian threat is central to America’s national security. The world is safer because of the actions of our brave service members. I’m praying for the safety of our service members in the region.”


JOHN FETTERMAN

Sen. John Fetterman (D-Pa.) said on Monday he thinks Democrats are wrong to oppose the U.S. strikes on Iranian nuclear facilities but said it wouldn’t be the first time he disagreed with the party consensus on a controversial issue.

In an interview on Fox News Channel’s “America’s Newsroom,” Fetterman said he expects some members of his party to be opposed to the U.S. strikes on Iran.

“There’s going to be a lot of people in my party that are going to disagree with the strike in Iran, and I actually support that,” Fetterman said about the Iranian strikes. “I’ve been always calling for that thing. I think it was entirely appropriate.”

Oopsie Daisy

(6,063 posts)
49. Then Hogg needs to call them out INDIVIDUALLY ... enough of this shitting on the entire Democratic party
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 08:51 PM
Jun 23

with his insinuations that it's some sort of RAMPANT support of Trump within the Democratic party. Why does he do that? What good purpose does it serve?

progressoid

(51,541 posts)
50. "Any Democrat who supports this war with Iran needs to be primaried," said Hogg
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 09:33 PM
Jun 23

He said, "any Democrat who supports this war with Iran needs to be primaried..."

That is not shitting on the entire Democratic party. Just a couple at this point.

Oopsie Daisy

(6,063 posts)
64. NO... it's an insinuation that there are "TOO MANY TO NAME". It's broad-brush smearing.
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 05:43 AM
Jun 24

He needs to stop this shit.

Nixie

(17,745 posts)
62. Exactly. The disinformation campaign is his money shot
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 10:49 PM
Jun 23

and he’s more invested in that than taking power back from Republicans.

Oopsie Daisy

(6,063 posts)
65. Clearly it's more "profitable" to smear and shit on Democrats than it is to support the party.
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 05:44 AM
Jun 24

Response to vanessa_ca (Original post)

buzzycrumbhunger

(1,200 posts)
54. I've lost count of the number of posts saying someone's drawn up impeachment papers...
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 09:57 PM
Jun 23

… and we have yet to see the orange shitgibbon and his minions held to account for anything.

I realize he keeps piling on the heinous crap but JFC, how can NOTHING stick?!

Rigpa108

(51 posts)
60. If the Republicans keep moving right...
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 10:20 PM
Jun 23

and the Democrats keep moving center, where does that eventually leads us?

thought crime

(456 posts)
68. Yeah. Right where we are. In Hell.
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 06:12 AM
Jun 24

That process has been going on since 1980. That's how we got here.

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