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VETERAN: This is why they cant wear masks. Because people like this exist
if you want to snatch people off the streets, do it in uniform, and show your damn face.
(@MarshaBlackburns Secret Police bill criminalizes transparency and threatens 5 years for naming an ICE agent)
VETERAN: âThis is why they canât wear masks. Because people like this exist⦠if you want to snatch people off the streets, do it in uniform, and show your damn face.â
— The Tennessee Holler (@thetnholler.bsky.social) 2025-06-07T17:47:43.266Z
(@MarshaBlackburnâs Secret Police bill criminalizes transparency and threatens 5 years for naming an ICE agent)
Cha
(316,768 posts)SheltieLover
(76,801 posts)I_UndergroundPanther
(13,330 posts)Chickenshit Fuckers show your face!!
Uncle Joe
(64,231 posts)Thanks for the thread IrishBubbaLiberal
Picaro
(2,333 posts)Even the legitimate ones (that are actual ICE or police) know they are obeying illegal orders. They know that later if they are arrested that following orders is not a viable defense. I guarantee you that there are emails that talk to this. I would bet that there have been trainings that recommend wearing masks and not displaying their badges to protect from subsequent prosecution. They also know that what theyre doing is simply wrong and people are going to get really pissed off. Some might be tempted to track these people down. They know this because theyd get violent if this was done to them. Simple human logic.
We have laws, state and federal, that prohibit these behaviors.
These laws exist because of our sordid history of vigilante justice and extrajudicial rapes, murders, and assaults.
The Trump regime has ushered in a time of lawlessness where the supposed good guys are to be feared. Ultimately, these guys are going to pick on someone thats armed and some of these idiots are going to get killed. When this happens the shooter is going to have a really good defense because they had no way of knowing who was attacking them. A masked person has always been viewed as an assailantbecause in most instances they were.
It looks to me like a lot of these fuckers arent even real ICE or DHS. But it doesnt really matter if they are. Without due process they are defacto illegitimate.
This piece brings the problems with how these supposed deportation actions are being carried out into even clearer focus.
Thanks for posting.
Attilatheblond
(8,289 posts)MadameButterfly
(3,746 posts)for the most part Police are respected and considered necessary to society.
Whether or not ICE is illegal, it is hated. Trump knows they could be treated like his base treats judges.
This proves that the country is not on board for this. If it was, the ICE agents would be respected heros, not fugitives from the general public.
On a practical level, you just can't have any government agent enforcing anything in disguise. How can you cooperate with an arrest when you don't know who the people are? It's unsafe and HAS to be illegal. Are there any lawsuits yet? There have to be lawsuits.
4catsmom
(667 posts)enabler and domestic terrorist
Miller, Homan and Noem to that list.
WhiskeyGrinder
(26,312 posts)GiqueCee
(3,409 posts)... that the OP suggests that at all. They're wearing masks because their actions are totally illegal. This entire program was spawned in the fevered mind of Stephen Miller, who is a bonafide psychopath, which can be said of a horrifying number of Republicans. Take Marsha Blackburn, for instance. Or Empty Greene. Or John Kennedy. or Mike Lee. Or "Moses" Johnson. Or, Hell, ANY Republican. Those with even a vestigial remnant of conscience have left the Republican Party, or are at least packing a go-bag, knowing that there is no line these fuckers won't cross, steadfast in their belief that the grotesquely corrupt "Sinister Six" on the SCOTUS will have their backs no matter what crimes they commit. That's already been proven beyond any shadow of a doubt.
WhiskeyGrinder
(26,312 posts)Ilikepurple
(425 posts)If your criticism is that the original post is wasting your or our time, why fight this post instead of fighting the horrors? It seems people get a little too attached to their personal narratives about these issues and want to sweep others concerns away. I for one do not believe I can achieve a gods eye point of view and therefore must lean on the experiences and ideas of others to become better informed.
RandomNumbers
(19,056 posts)"How would you feel if your actions were publicized? Like splashed on the front page of a newspaper?"
(realizing that now "newspaper" concept should be replaced with "go viral on social media" )
Point being, if you would NOT want your actions publicized and known that you did the thing, you probably shouldn't do the thing (ethically, anyway). As the OP pointed out, "following orders" doesn't make it legally okay. For most people, ethics goes beyond just the law; probably in the case of people willing to be ICE agents and carry out these raids, the legal factor is the main thing. But there still might be a kernel of conscience left in some of them, that would make them unwilling if their participation were public.
MadameButterfly
(3,746 posts)a way to be sure they are who they say they are.
Otherwise they subject the public to imposters.
They absolve themselves of any professional responsibility in the actions they do take.
if you believe in what ICE is doing, you should be willing to set these standards.
The refusal to set standards is admission that you are not actually concerned about legality and you recognize that the people will not tolerate what you are doing. It may be an effort to make the deportations even more inflammatory to lead to the insurrection act sooner rather than later. Or it may just show that Trump is desperate, having found there are not actually enough rapists and murderers to make a dent in the immigrant population so he is having to go after beloved community member.s
allegorical oracle
(6,184 posts)masks as they conducted their arrest roundups....
JanMichael
(25,725 posts)GopherGal
(2,788 posts)Hate to agree, but that's the point we've reached in this country now.
ICE agents compare unfavorably to OG Nazis.
dchill
(42,660 posts)If they wear uniforms and show their faces, it makes them responsible for all they do. That won't work for them.
oberle
(272 posts)I wish somebody would pull one of their masks down. Then at least one of them can be identified.
bdamomma
(69,167 posts)a Jan 6th Insurrectionist, and see what they say or do.
DiverDave
(5,217 posts)Kick+rec
Festivito
(13,852 posts)attempted rape and theft report
https://abc7ny.com/post/brooklyn-heights-attack-man-arrested-attempted-rape-allegedly-posing-ice-agent/15902769/
https://abc7ny.com/post/brooklyn-attempted-rape-woman-says-man-posed-ice-agent-before-attempting-sexually-assault-heights/15897592/
Caught
https://www.amny.com/new-york/brooklyn/brooklyn-rape-attempt-ice-agent-02132025/
evolves
(5,738 posts)a festering cancer in the body of this nation.
She is a horrible embarrassment and and even more horrible person.
Martin68
(27,061 posts)Iamscrewed
(486 posts)So much for brown shirts.
bdamomma
(69,167 posts)nt
dlk
(13,113 posts)n/t