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https://defendingthetruth.com/t/handful-of-house-democrats-join-republicans-in-sanctuary-city-crackdown.150960/
This makes less than zero sense to me.

LoisB
(11,117 posts)about Cuellar, it seems to be that he has voted with Republicans.
Captain Zero
(8,161 posts)I think.
karynnj
(60,414 posts)I think he almost lost a primary last time to an impressive contender. I suspect this is his last term
As to the others, I think Golden represents the more conservative part of Maine. MGP represents a district that had been red. Her win was a surprise.
onenote
(45,469 posts)Jessica Cisneros ran against him in the Democratic primary in 2022 and 2020 and narrowly lost. If she had won the nomination she very likely would have been crushed in the general election. Cuellar's district went for Trump in 2024 by a 53.1 - 45.8 margin.
Does that mean with his age and the district's voters, this is one we stand to lose? Making ONLY his vote for a (Democratic) speaker important.
slightlv
(6,141 posts)he was as bad as a republican back then, too. I have absolutely no use for him. I don't consider him a DINO, I consider him a republican.
LoisB
(11,117 posts)slightlv
(6,141 posts)hamsterjill
(16,121 posts)I know this because when he was first picked, I worked for one of the Republicans' companies. There were discussions about running him as a Democrat because the area that he serves is/was mostly Democratic. A decision was made and he ran as a Democrat.
Cuellar's record speaks for itself.
LoisB
(11,117 posts)GoodRaisin
(10,359 posts)I doubt democratic constituents like watching him vote with republicans.
hamsterjill
(16,121 posts)He's been primaried, but he won. He has a lot of money backers, and this is, after all, Texas.
Captain Zero
(8,161 posts)Wouldn't it?
Maybe I'm not counting the votes right..??
dickthegrouch
(4,085 posts)It happens time after time, the GOP deplorables look at the gap between Yays and Nays and claim more of a mandate to pursue their insanity / cruelty / damage.
With "friends" like these folks, who needs enemies?
W_HAMILTON
(9,351 posts)I think the posting of these sorts of votes where how individual Democrats vote don't ultimately matter is just to continue the almost decades-long mission by some to """take down the Democratic establishment."""
So, no, how these handful of Democrats voted won't matter one iota in whether Republicans claim they have a mandate or not, but they will be used to depress potential Democratic turnout by using it as another false example to push """both parties are the same""" bullshit, which ultimately only hurts Democrats because Republicans are a cult and they will vote Republican in the end regardless.
pimpbot
(1,100 posts)Now that some dems voted for it. I know we don't actually want to be like the GOP, but it would be nice if we could muster some spines and show a united front to whatever crazy bill they are trying to ramrod through.
betsuni
(28,109 posts)named, breathless with outrage and disgust, as proof the whole party is an elderly wealthy elite corrupt establishment of Republican Lite/conservative/moderate/centrist/ THIRD WAY
/Vichy Dems/bribed by oligarchs/hate and ignore the working class/will stop at nothing to defeat progress/always assumed to have evil motivations etc. etc. etc.
Of course if you ask them the names of all the shadowy evil enemies, who exactly is the "old guard of the Democratic Establishment" and who's the oligarchy supposedly controlling everything, names of Democrats who have changed votes because of campaign contributions, names of DNC members that are "rigging" elections, who are the elites, who are the Democrats "not fighting" and how do you know --- no no no, no names there. They just know they are right.
MayReasonRule
(3,564 posts)Not calling out bullshit does nothing but encourage ongoing bullshit.
Every time.
This is that.
Party unity is not defined by ignoring deleterious actions by members of our party.
Quite the opposite.
mzmolly
(52,372 posts)I do know what to do. Vote for the less than perfect Democrat.
Scrivener7
(56,505 posts)This is a ridiculous vote.
W_HAMILTON
(9,351 posts)That's how they got into office to begin with.
I don't recognize all the names, but I recognize a few of the usual suspects and they have had primary challengers in the past but apparently beat them and their Republican opponents in the general, so...
Scrivener7
(56,505 posts)Captain Zero
(8,161 posts)Henry Cuellar's Texas indictment for bribery is still active. He and his wife were indicted in May 2024 on charges of bribery, money laundering, and acting as an unregistered foreign agent, according to the Department of Justice. The trial is scheduled to take place in federal court in Houston. While the initial trial date was in July 2024, it was delayed until after the election in November 2024. The trial is now set to begin in the spring of 2025.
(This is from Wikipedia, but we are past springtime, so who knows?)
During the primaries, vote for the best candidate.
dsc
(53,032 posts)sadly I am not surprised.
wendyb-NC
(4,402 posts)That's a disappointment.
Ritabert
(1,382 posts)Reps. Henry Cuellar of Texas, Laura Gillen of New York, Don Davis of North Carolina, Jared Golden of Maine and Marie Gluesenkamp Perez of Washington.
Samael13
(45 posts)But if we want any chance of taking back the house and senate we have to accept some dems aren't gonna be flying a ultra liberal flag some are gonna be more moderate or conservative just because of the areas they represent. Having lived in texas before there are democrats that dont support the idea of sanctuary cities and we have to accept that. Personally id rather win with imperfect candidates than lose with perfect ones
milestogo
(21,344 posts)TomSlick
(12,608 posts)whether to vote for the Democrat with whom I agree or the one that has the best shot at winning the general election.
With the republic on the line, I'll vote in the primary for the Democrat who has the best shot in the general election.
speak easy
(11,991 posts)'Born Alive' bill. The only Democrat He is also the only Democratic Rep. I know of who did fundraising for a sitting Republican in a competitive district.
If concurring with Texas' anti-abortion laws and supporting Republican candidates is just imperfect, I don't want to know what impermissible is. We paid big time for giving free passes to Zell Miller and Joe Lieberman.
lonely bird
(2,425 posts)There is literally nobody who is ultra liberal in congress.
BidenRocks
(1,859 posts)This is your mission!
Primary these fucks!
soldierant
(8,750 posts)Gluesenkamp Perez does a little. The others I don't know about. At least none of them is mine.
onenote
(45,469 posts)I know a lot of folks will disagree, but my test for who to vote for in a primary is who has the best chance of defeating their repub opponent. And four of the five identified in the OP won in districts that Trump won and all are ranked as toss-ups for 2026.
soldierant
(8,750 posts)Ping Tung
(3,080 posts)Last week I sent her a note telling her that her votes decides my vote the seat.
I didn't get a response. And, now, voting against sanctuary cities makes my vote very questionable.
travelingthrulife
(2,902 posts)et tu
(2,366 posts)if they don't hold dem values- useless
get them out!
onenote
(45,469 posts)Four of the five are from districts carried by Trump in 2024. They are ranked as toss-up districts for 2026. A progressive candidate will not win in these districts. Period.
et tu
(2,366 posts)but do get better candidates
why are we stuck with these?
onenote
(45,469 posts)They are essentially repub districts that voted for Trump.
J_William_Ryan
(2,864 posts)Perhaps they believe such a measure would not pass in the Senate.
Or would be struck down by the courts as un-Constitutional which it is.
There's also no such thing as a 'sanctuary city.'
republianmushroom
(20,715 posts)give them money.
Initech
(105,693 posts)
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