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Five Democrats Voted With The Fascists To PUNISH Sanctuary Cities! (Original Post) MayReasonRule Jun 6 OP
I don't know much about any of these folks but it seems that every time I read something LoisB Jun 6 #1
He is older than the hills too Captain Zero Jun 6 #3
Isn't he also under investigation? karynnj Jun 6 #24
Cuellar had no primary opponent in 2024. onenote Jun 6 #32
Thanks. karynnj Jun 7 #42
I reached out to him decades ago for some help, slightlv Jun 6 #25
Disgusting. What use is he? LoisB Jun 6 #27
He was worse than none, when I lived in Texas. slightlv Jun 6 #30
Cuellar was hand picked by a bunch of Republicans. hamsterjill Jun 6 #35
Wow. No wonder. Thanks for that background. LoisB Jun 6 #36
If it's a democratic area go ahead and primary him? GoodRaisin Jun 7 #44
One would think, right? hamsterjill Jun 7 #45
It still would have passed anyway Captain Zero Jun 6 #2
The wider the margin by which it passes, the greater the "Mandate" that the fools claim dickthegrouch Jun 6 #4
Have you not been watching Republicans? They will claim they have a mandate even if it doesn't pass. W_HAMILTON Jun 6 #8
GOP can yammer on about "bipartisan" pimpbot Jun 6 #16
Rule: 1- 12 or so Democrats vote in a way that doesn't change anything and they're immediately betsuni Jun 7 #38
Happy Saturday To You... I Whollly And Wholeheartedly Disagree MayReasonRule Jun 7 #40
If they're running against Republicans mzmolly Jun 6 #5
Unless a better Democrat wins the primary. And this is information to consider during the primaries. Scrivener7 Jun 6 #7
These Democrats have been winning their primaries. W_HAMILTON Jun 6 #9
Yes. But maybe someone better will run against them at primary time. Scrivener7 Jun 6 #11
Cuellar still under indictment for BRIBERY Captain Zero Jun 6 #14
Agree. mzmolly Jun 6 #12
Don Davis is my Congressman dsc Jun 6 #6
He is my Congressman, also wendyb-NC Jun 6 #20
Here are the usual suspects Ritabert Jun 6 #10
I know its not popular Samael13 Jun 6 #13
I'd rather vote for candidates who do the right thing. milestogo Jun 6 #15
It can sometimes be a hard call in a primary TomSlick Jun 6 #17
Henry Cuellar is the Democrat who voted for the anti-abortion speak easy Jun 6 #18
Enough with the "ultra liberal" crap lonely bird Jun 6 #22
Hey Musk! BidenRocks Jun 6 #19
Cuellar doesn't surprise me. soldierant Jun 6 #21
Trump won her district in 2024. So its no surprise. onenote Jun 6 #33
Oftentimes that is the best way to vote in the primary. I do believe there are exceptions - but, I agree, not many. soldierant Jun 7 #46
My rep is on that list and she's going to have to change course to get my vote in 26. Ping Tung Jun 6 #23
They all need to go. travelingthrulife Jun 6 #26
what good are they et tu Jun 6 #28
And replace them with Republicans? No thanks. onenote Jun 6 #34
didn't say that et tu Jun 7 #41
What you think is a better candidate will lose in these districts onenote Jun 7 #43
Pragmatists? J_William_Ryan Jun 6 #29
And the Dem. national committee wonders why I won't republianmushroom Jun 6 #31
Fucking what? This is bullshit! Initech Jun 7 #37
Post removed Post removed Jun 7 #39

LoisB

(11,117 posts)
1. I don't know much about any of these folks but it seems that every time I read something
Fri Jun 6, 2025, 06:29 PM
Jun 6

about Cuellar, it seems to be that he has voted with Republicans.

karynnj

(60,414 posts)
24. Isn't he also under investigation?
Fri Jun 6, 2025, 08:40 PM
Jun 6

I think he almost lost a primary last time to an impressive contender. I suspect this is his last term

As to the others, I think Golden represents the more conservative part of Maine. MGP represents a district that had been red. Her win was a surprise.

onenote

(45,469 posts)
32. Cuellar had no primary opponent in 2024.
Fri Jun 6, 2025, 10:53 PM
Jun 6

Jessica Cisneros ran against him in the Democratic primary in 2022 and 2020 and narrowly lost. If she had won the nomination she very likely would have been crushed in the general election. Cuellar's district went for Trump in 2024 by a 53.1 - 45.8 margin.


karynnj

(60,414 posts)
42. Thanks.
Sat Jun 7, 2025, 12:14 PM
Jun 7

Does that mean with his age and the district's voters, this is one we stand to lose? Making ONLY his vote for a (Democratic) speaker important.

slightlv

(6,141 posts)
25. I reached out to him decades ago for some help,
Fri Jun 6, 2025, 09:10 PM
Jun 6

he was as bad as a republican back then, too. I have absolutely no use for him. I don't consider him a DINO, I consider him a republican.

hamsterjill

(16,121 posts)
35. Cuellar was hand picked by a bunch of Republicans.
Fri Jun 6, 2025, 11:33 PM
Jun 6

I know this because when he was first picked, I worked for one of the Republicans' companies. There were discussions about running him as a Democrat because the area that he serves is/was mostly Democratic. A decision was made and he ran as a Democrat.

Cuellar's record speaks for itself.

GoodRaisin

(10,359 posts)
44. If it's a democratic area go ahead and primary him?
Sat Jun 7, 2025, 02:41 PM
Jun 7

I doubt democratic constituents like watching him vote with republicans.

hamsterjill

(16,121 posts)
45. One would think, right?
Sat Jun 7, 2025, 04:58 PM
Jun 7

He's been primaried, but he won. He has a lot of money backers, and this is, after all, Texas.

dickthegrouch

(4,085 posts)
4. The wider the margin by which it passes, the greater the "Mandate" that the fools claim
Fri Jun 6, 2025, 06:43 PM
Jun 6

It happens time after time, the GOP deplorables look at the gap between Yays and Nays and claim more of a mandate to pursue their insanity / cruelty / damage.

With "friends" like these folks, who needs enemies?

W_HAMILTON

(9,351 posts)
8. Have you not been watching Republicans? They will claim they have a mandate even if it doesn't pass.
Fri Jun 6, 2025, 07:03 PM
Jun 6

I think the posting of these sorts of votes where how individual Democrats vote don't ultimately matter is just to continue the almost decades-long mission by some to """take down the Democratic establishment."""

So, no, how these handful of Democrats voted won't matter one iota in whether Republicans claim they have a mandate or not, but they will be used to depress potential Democratic turnout by using it as another false example to push """both parties are the same""" bullshit, which ultimately only hurts Democrats because Republicans are a cult and they will vote Republican in the end regardless.

pimpbot

(1,100 posts)
16. GOP can yammer on about "bipartisan"
Fri Jun 6, 2025, 07:34 PM
Jun 6

Now that some dems voted for it. I know we don't actually want to be like the GOP, but it would be nice if we could muster some spines and show a united front to whatever crazy bill they are trying to ramrod through.

betsuni

(28,109 posts)
38. Rule: 1- 12 or so Democrats vote in a way that doesn't change anything and they're immediately
Sat Jun 7, 2025, 12:34 AM
Jun 7

named, breathless with outrage and disgust, as proof the whole party is an elderly wealthy elite corrupt establishment of Republican Lite/conservative/moderate/centrist/ THIRD WAY /Vichy Dems/bribed by oligarchs/hate and ignore the working class/will stop at nothing to defeat progress/always assumed to have evil motivations etc. etc. etc.

Of course if you ask them the names of all the shadowy evil enemies, who exactly is the "old guard of the Democratic Establishment" and who's the oligarchy supposedly controlling everything, names of Democrats who have changed votes because of campaign contributions, names of DNC members that are "rigging" elections, who are the elites, who are the Democrats "not fighting" and how do you know --- no no no, no names there. They just know they are right.

MayReasonRule

(3,564 posts)
40. Happy Saturday To You... I Whollly And Wholeheartedly Disagree
Sat Jun 7, 2025, 07:55 AM
Jun 7

Not calling out bullshit does nothing but encourage ongoing bullshit.

Every time.

This is that.

Party unity is not defined by ignoring deleterious actions by members of our party.

Quite the opposite.

mzmolly

(52,372 posts)
5. If they're running against Republicans
Fri Jun 6, 2025, 06:57 PM
Jun 6

I do know what to do. Vote for the less than perfect Democrat.

Scrivener7

(56,505 posts)
7. Unless a better Democrat wins the primary. And this is information to consider during the primaries.
Fri Jun 6, 2025, 06:59 PM
Jun 6

This is a ridiculous vote.

W_HAMILTON

(9,351 posts)
9. These Democrats have been winning their primaries.
Fri Jun 6, 2025, 07:05 PM
Jun 6

That's how they got into office to begin with.

I don't recognize all the names, but I recognize a few of the usual suspects and they have had primary challengers in the past but apparently beat them and their Republican opponents in the general, so...

Captain Zero

(8,161 posts)
14. Cuellar still under indictment for BRIBERY
Fri Jun 6, 2025, 07:25 PM
Jun 6

Henry Cuellar's Texas indictment for bribery is still active. He and his wife were indicted in May 2024 on charges of bribery, money laundering, and acting as an unregistered foreign agent, according to the Department of Justice. The trial is scheduled to take place in federal court in Houston. While the initial trial date was in July 2024, it was delayed until after the election in November 2024. The trial is now set to begin in the spring of 2025.
(This is from Wikipedia, but we are past springtime, so who knows?)

Ritabert

(1,382 posts)
10. Here are the usual suspects
Fri Jun 6, 2025, 07:06 PM
Jun 6

Reps. Henry Cuellar of Texas, Laura Gillen of New York, Don Davis of North Carolina, Jared Golden of Maine and Marie Gluesenkamp Perez of Washington.

Samael13

(45 posts)
13. I know its not popular
Fri Jun 6, 2025, 07:18 PM
Jun 6

But if we want any chance of taking back the house and senate we have to accept some dems aren't gonna be flying a ultra liberal flag some are gonna be more moderate or conservative just because of the areas they represent. Having lived in texas before there are democrats that dont support the idea of sanctuary cities and we have to accept that. Personally id rather win with imperfect candidates than lose with perfect ones

TomSlick

(12,608 posts)
17. It can sometimes be a hard call in a primary
Fri Jun 6, 2025, 08:05 PM
Jun 6

whether to vote for the Democrat with whom I agree or the one that has the best shot at winning the general election.

With the republic on the line, I'll vote in the primary for the Democrat who has the best shot in the general election.

speak easy

(11,991 posts)
18. Henry Cuellar is the Democrat who voted for the anti-abortion
Fri Jun 6, 2025, 08:05 PM
Jun 6

'Born Alive' bill. The only Democrat He is also the only Democratic Rep. I know of who did fundraising for a sitting Republican in a competitive district.

If concurring with Texas' anti-abortion laws and supporting Republican candidates is just imperfect, I don't want to know what impermissible is. We paid big time for giving free passes to Zell Miller and Joe Lieberman.

lonely bird

(2,425 posts)
22. Enough with the "ultra liberal" crap
Fri Jun 6, 2025, 08:25 PM
Jun 6

There is literally nobody who is ultra liberal in congress.

soldierant

(8,750 posts)
21. Cuellar doesn't surprise me.
Fri Jun 6, 2025, 08:19 PM
Jun 6

Gluesenkamp Perez does a little. The others I don't know about. At least none of them is mine.

onenote

(45,469 posts)
33. Trump won her district in 2024. So its no surprise.
Fri Jun 6, 2025, 10:57 PM
Jun 6

I know a lot of folks will disagree, but my test for who to vote for in a primary is who has the best chance of defeating their repub opponent. And four of the five identified in the OP won in districts that Trump won and all are ranked as toss-ups for 2026.

soldierant

(8,750 posts)
46. Oftentimes that is the best way to vote in the primary. I do believe there are exceptions - but, I agree, not many.
Sat Jun 7, 2025, 06:37 PM
Jun 7

Ping Tung

(3,080 posts)
23. My rep is on that list and she's going to have to change course to get my vote in 26.
Fri Jun 6, 2025, 08:35 PM
Jun 6

Last week I sent her a note telling her that her votes decides my vote the seat.

I didn't get a response. And, now, voting against sanctuary cities makes my vote very questionable.

onenote

(45,469 posts)
34. And replace them with Republicans? No thanks.
Fri Jun 6, 2025, 10:59 PM
Jun 6

Four of the five are from districts carried by Trump in 2024. They are ranked as toss-up districts for 2026. A progressive candidate will not win in these districts. Period.

onenote

(45,469 posts)
43. What you think is a better candidate will lose in these districts
Sat Jun 7, 2025, 02:35 PM
Jun 7

They are essentially repub districts that voted for Trump.

J_William_Ryan

(2,864 posts)
29. Pragmatists?
Fri Jun 6, 2025, 09:17 PM
Jun 6

Perhaps they believe such a measure would not pass in the Senate.

Or would be struck down by the courts as un-Constitutional – which it is.

There's also no such thing as a 'sanctuary city.'

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