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LetMyPeopleVote

(161,687 posts)
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 01:50 PM Friday

DOJ lawyer tells judge he doesn't know whereabouts of mistakenly deported Maryland man

The trial judge is piss



https://abcnews.go.com/US/after-supreme-court-ruling-judge-sets-hearing-maryland/story?id=120703441

A deputy assistant attorney general told the judge overseeing the case of Kilmar Armando Abrego Garcia, the Maryland man who was deported to El Salvador in error, that he does "not have the information" regarding Abrego Garcia's whereabouts.

U.S. District Judge Paula Xinis began a hearing Friday on Abrego Garcia's deportation by asking the government to answer where Kilmer Armando Abrego Garcia is.

"Where is he and under whose authority?" she repeatedly asked.

"I do not have that knowledge, and therefore I cannot relate that knowledge," DOJ attorney Drew Ensign said.

"I'm not asking for state secrets, I'm asking where one man who is wrongly and illegally deported, removed from this country [is]," Xinis said.

"Your Honor, I do not have the information provided to me that I can provide to you," Ensign said again.

The judge decided to go ahead with Friday's hearing after the Trump administration sought to delay the hearing until next week. The Justice Department on Friday morning asked her to reschedule the hearing for Wednesday, April 16, two days after El Salvador President Nayib Bukele is scheduled to meet with the White House -- but the judge, in a filing, kept the hearing date as scheduled.

Xinis, at the start of the hearing, said has three questions for DOJ: The current physical location and custodial status of Abrego Garcia, what steps the Trump administration has taken to facilitate his return, and what additional steps the government will take and when to facilitate Abrego Garcia's return.


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DOJ lawyer tells judge he doesn't know whereabouts of mistakenly deported Maryland man (Original Post) LetMyPeopleVote Friday OP
The hearing did not go well for the DOJ- the trial court is piss LetMyPeopleVote Friday #1
Ensign: "We read the Supreme Court's order differently." sop Friday #3
As if they are equal to a Xinis's judging. The judge who just said they will not be relitigating anything. ancianita Friday #17
As I noted yesterday, SCOTUS order is VERY problematic pat_k Friday #28
"Abrego Garcia was disappeared, your honor." sop Friday #2
This Person is Either... ruet Friday #4
I agree. The El Salvador prison is notorious for abuse and torture. Lonestarblue Friday #16
This is what concerns me. slightlv Friday #35
The Felon needs to send his department stooges to El Salvador. pandr32 Friday #5
Keep it legal, hold administration official in contemp of court. Ferryboat Friday #10
Exactly. Order court security to take a lawyer or defendant into court custody until the plaintiff is returned. ancianita Friday #18
It's beginning to look... GiqueCee Friday #25
Yep. if they can't produce him, they need to go find him. n/t forgotmylogin Friday #23
That's what would have the biggest impact. pandr32 Friday #29
He forgot to use air-parenthesis and the secret wink ... marble falls Friday #6
If only we had a government office that dealt with foreign states... Moostache Friday #7
This alone should be grounds for impeachment. Uncle Joe Friday #8
Abrego Garcia is being held under a contract IbogaProject Friday #9
Have you seen the contract? Ms. Toad Friday #19
So what does "DOJ" stand for, regarding this supposed attorney? Paladin Friday #11
When the Law is Ignored Without Consequences Chasstev365 Friday #12
Time to start preparing a wrongful death lawsuit 0rganism Friday #13
Wanna bet Quinn Emanuel can prove Drew Ensign is lying? First that the govt earlier admitted he's in ancianita Friday #14
By now, ancianita Friday #15
My bet is that ..... MaineNative Friday #20
Maybe Drew should ask his Gestapo boss lady where the fuck Garcia is wolfie001 Friday #21
Can the Judge subpoena the President of El Salvador? James48 Friday #22
I knew that was coming. No one in this "administration" will be able to find him. LoisB Friday #24
They may have just kicked him out of the plane over the ocean like the CIA and the South American rebels used to do. LiberalArkie Friday #26
What about all the rest of them? NONE got any due process. Bluetus Friday #27
Thank you Cirsium Friday #33
Has anybody at the DOJ or State Dept asked the El Salvador Embassy? ThoughtCriminal Friday #30
Contempt of court - start putting some people behind bars Number9Dream Friday #31
Judge demands 'daily updates' on whether Trump admin is complying with court order to return illegally deported man LetMyPeopleVote Friday #32
Where are the chants to melm00se Friday #34
Could this judge deputize a marshal, plus select a volunteer Democratic possee? bluestarone Friday #36
We're going to have to stop LPBBEAR Friday #37
Someone needs to get arrested for contempt n/t AntiFascist Friday #38
NEW from a federal judge in Maryland immigrant Kilmar Abrego Garcia's case: LetMyPeopleVote Friday #39
Trump administration attests that Kilmar Abrego Garcia is alive and secure LetMyPeopleVote Saturday #40

LetMyPeopleVote

(161,687 posts)
1. The hearing did not go well for the DOJ- the trial court is piss
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 01:53 PM
Friday

At the hearing the DOJ is refusing to tell the court what had been done to return Mr. Garcia









The trial court is pissed

ancianita

(40,289 posts)
17. As if they are equal to a Xinis's judging. The judge who just said they will not be relitigating anything.
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 02:52 PM
Friday

Talk about DOJ contempt. If on the first day they don't produce even one piece of info they're so ordered to produce, Xinis should find Noem, et. al. and Ensign in contempt.

Lonestarblue

(12,549 posts)
16. I agree. The El Salvador prison is notorious for abuse and torture.
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 02:47 PM
Friday

And it’s probably far worse than we can imagine. No one in Trump land cares how the people sent there are treated and probably told prison authorities to rough them up, as Trump once told US police. Someone in the administration could simply call the prison authorities and tell them to put the man on the first commercial flight back to the US—unless he is too abused to travel or he is dead already and they know it.

slightlv

(5,379 posts)
35. This is what concerns me.
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 04:59 PM
Friday

It's not just a matter of ideology that they're fighting to keep the poor man disappeared. There's a reason, and it's got to be one that will cause a problem for all the high ranking individuals in this administration... even from (at least) some of the magas. I honestly can't see the difference between what trump is doing with people and the issue of human trafficking. And trafficked individuals often end up dead when their whereabouts would be inconvenient for those who sold him.

pandr32

(12,853 posts)
5. The Felon needs to send his department stooges to El Salvador.
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 02:04 PM
Friday

They should be required to stay until they return the people they sent there.

Ferryboat

(1,147 posts)
10. Keep it legal, hold administration official in contemp of court.
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 02:24 PM
Friday

Place in lockup, until order is complied with.

ancianita

(40,289 posts)
18. Exactly. Order court security to take a lawyer or defendant into court custody until the plaintiff is returned.
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 02:55 PM
Friday

GiqueCee

(2,130 posts)
25. It's beginning to look...
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 04:17 PM
Friday

... like "legal" has left the building. The Right's long game has been thorough, and all the exits are blocked. The Left – that's us – foolishly clung to the Pollyanna notion that everyone was playing by the rules. It turns out, that's a hard NO. Since when have Republicans EVER played by the rules? C'mon. Grow up.
It's time we play hardball, too. Or die. I'm not in the mood for the latter.

Moostache

(10,444 posts)
7. If only we had a government office that dealt with foreign states...
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 02:14 PM
Friday

You know a Sectretary of something or other...That position that Hillary Clinton once held (and performed magnificantly in)...

If only there were someone other than a craven lunatic and sack of shit like Rubio in the Sectretary of State role....or a non-drunk Fox news shill in the Department of Defense? Or anyone not busy sucking an orange painted flaccid penis constantly and moaning about how big it is?

This entire administration deserves to be tried and punished for what they are doing, no clemency, no mercy.

IbogaProject

(4,259 posts)
9. Abrego Garcia is being held under a contract
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 02:24 PM
Friday

Any payments on that "contract" must stop and other financial pressure needs to be brought upon El Salvador and it's ruling clan.

Ms. Toad

(36,652 posts)
19. Have you seen the contract?
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 02:58 PM
Friday

The devil, in contracts, is in the details. It could be a per capita payment solely to take deportees in - with no further ability to control what happens to the deportees once they arrive. I have yet to see anything beyond $6 million payment and some further direction at the end of a year (I can't find it immediately, but it was in his attorney's brief to the Supreme Court). His attorney inferred from that that the Trump administration maintained effective control over the detainees - but didn't have any evidence beyond those two facts.

Chasstev365

(5,341 posts)
12. When the Law is Ignored Without Consequences
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 02:31 PM
Friday

Society will fall apart.

I think not holding Karl Rove in contempt for refusing honoring a Congressional subpoena in 2006 only emboldened Republicans.

Mitch McConnell letting Trump out of an impeachment conviction TWICE, especially the second one, was the breaking point.

Trump's whole fraudulent life has been ignoring the law and NO ONE ever holds him accountable.

We are so screwed!

0rganism

(24,989 posts)
13. Time to start preparing a wrongful death lawsuit
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 02:34 PM
Friday

The chance of Mr. Abrego Garcia returning alive diminishes substantially with every passing hour. His family is at least entitled to his earthly remains and an extremely high degree of financial compensation for his loss.

ancianita

(40,289 posts)
14. Wanna bet Quinn Emanuel can prove Drew Ensign is lying? First that the govt earlier admitted he's in
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 02:35 PM
Friday

El Salvador and now claiming not to know -- highly suspect circumstantial claim -- where in El Salvador.

ancianita

(40,289 posts)
15. By now,
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 02:38 PM
Friday

Judge Paula Xinis woulda/shoulda/coulda ordered Noem et al and Drew Ensign to personally fly to El Salvador on any DHS aircraft and retrieve Garcia with a US Supreme Court backed bench warrant, or Noem be held in contempt.

MaineNative

(39 posts)
20. My bet is that .....
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 03:02 PM
Friday

This current group of goblins occupying our treasured government has no intention of releasing him because he'll talk and paint the kidnapping and gulag as a house of torture.

wolfie001

(4,603 posts)
21. Maybe Drew should ask his Gestapo boss lady where the fuck Garcia is
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 03:06 PM
Friday

You know, the bleach blond clown. republican lawyers are total shit. And this is what we end up with. A shitfest

James48

(4,804 posts)
22. Can the Judge subpoena the President of El Salvador?
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 03:32 PM
Friday

I hear he’s going to be in Washington next week. Get both Trump and the El Salvadoran President in the court room to explain.

Perhaps we can send US Marshalls after him.

LiberalArkie

(17,946 posts)
26. They may have just kicked him out of the plane over the ocean like the CIA and the South American rebels used to do.
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 04:26 PM
Friday

If they have no plan to every bring them back, why in the world would they pay to imprison them.

Bluetus

(950 posts)
27. What about all the rest of them? NONE got any due process.
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 04:29 PM
Friday

Last edited Fri Apr 11, 2025, 05:28 PM - Edit history (1)

How do we know that they were not ALL deported illegally?

ThoughtCriminal

(14,521 posts)
30. Has anybody at the DOJ or State Dept asked the El Salvador Embassy?
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 04:39 PM
Friday

I'm pretty certain the answer is "No". Trump claims to have such a close and friendly relationship, but can't seem to ask a simple favor. Art of deal ya' know.

Has anyone in the press asked the El Salvador Ambassador?



LetMyPeopleVote

(161,687 posts)
32. Judge demands 'daily updates' on whether Trump admin is complying with court order to return illegally deported man
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 04:45 PM
Friday

The judge is piss off at the trump DOJ
https://bsky.app/profile/politico.com/post/3lmkoimx2ak2x




https://www.politico.com/news/2025/04/11/trump-administration-illegal-deportation-el-salvador-00286877

GREENBELT, Maryland — An exasperated federal judge commanded the Trump administration Friday to begin providing “daily updates” on whether it is doing anything to comply with her order to return a Maryland man — illegally deported to El Salvador last month — back to the United States.

U.S. District Judge Paula Xinis scolded the administration for refusing to provide even “basic” details about Kilmar Abrego Garcia’s location, despite her demand for an update by Friday morning.....

The administration’s stonewalling, which Xinis described as “extremely troubling,” raised the specter that it is defying the order that the judge issued last week and that the Supreme Court largely upheld Thursday.

Xinis, an Obama appointee, said that without any information — or even an acknowledgment that the administration had done anything at all — she could only conclude that the administration had “done nothing to facilitate the return of Mr. Abrego Garcia.

“There’s an easy way to combat that,” she said, “and that’s just to tell me whether you’ve done anything and if so, what.”

Xinis’ new directive requires the daily updates to come from an administration official with “personal knowledge” of efforts to return Abrego Garcia to the United States. But Justice Department officials said they may not be prepared to comply with her demands until at least Monday......

Xinis told Ensign that if Trump administration officials were depriving him of information she demanded, then “you don’t have full and effective contact with your clients.”

LPBBEAR

(526 posts)
37. We're going to have to stop
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 05:24 PM
Friday

agonizing over each of these endless and ongoing crimes and face the fact that Trump and all his toadies will have to be dragged out of their offices and jailed. They all need to be imprisoned and tried for their crimes.

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