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moonshinegnomie

(3,307 posts)
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 01:01 PM Friday

adminsitration refuses to obey court order



seriously when is enough is enough. they flaunt orders . the trample on teh constitution.

what do we do when laws have no meaning. seriously. why shoudl anyone obey any law if the administration gets to choose which ones to obey.
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adminsitration refuses to obey court order (Original Post) moonshinegnomie Friday OP
If the adminstration refuses to follow the law, they make themselves illegitimate. Jim__ Friday #1
The DOJ Was Almost as Fast as DU... ruet Friday #2
Do you think the man is dead already? Just wondered. Srkdqltr Friday #3
I have a feeling, our poor Maryland man is not alive, therefore, the administration is lying to the court. OLDMDDEM Friday #4
in which case maryland should arrest the top doj officials for murder moonshinegnomie Friday #6
I agree. OLDMDDEM Friday #7
This orangecrush Friday #27
The irony of this is Republicans justify mass deportations of law-abiding, productive, tax-paying immigrants, sop Friday #5
The judge should order an immediate wellness check on this man. nature-lover Friday #8
The hearing did not go well for the DOJ- the trial court is piss LetMyPeopleVote Friday #9
DOJ lawyer tells judge he doesn't know whereabouts of mistakenly deported Maryland man LetMyPeopleVote Friday #10
In a shallow mass grave orangecrush Friday #26
Link: Amaryllis Friday #11
The middle finger response is not "facilitating his release." surfered Friday #12
Start arresting the DOJ lawyers newdeal2 Friday #13
Trump has been given immunity markodochartaigh Friday #19
He's dead. live love laugh Friday #14
That is what I think too KT2000 Friday #17
Until We Know for Sure He's Equally Alive and Dead. ruet Friday #21
The guy is... GiqueCee Friday #23
Musk Cirsium Friday #15
We the people. William769 Friday #16
The fall of Rome didn't happen in a day Iamscrewed Friday #18
Contempt SSJVegeta Friday #20
Elected criminality Iamscrewed Friday #22
Elected criminality Iamscrewed Friday #28
Judge demands 'daily updates' on whether Trump admin is complying with court order to return illegally deported man LetMyPeopleVote Friday #24
Hold the DOJ attorneys orangecrush Friday #25
NEW from a federal judge in Maryland immigrant Kilmar Abrego Garcia's case: LetMyPeopleVote Friday #29
I wonder if it would be possible for the citizens to get him back. usedtobedemgurl Friday #30

Jim__

(14,673 posts)
1. If the adminstration refuses to follow the law, they make themselves illegitimate.
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 01:04 PM
Friday

I know congress is not going to impeach anyone in this administration. But, we the people, should not consider them the legitimate government.

OLDMDDEM

(2,448 posts)
4. I have a feeling, our poor Maryland man is not alive, therefore, the administration is lying to the court.
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 01:12 PM
Friday

moonshinegnomie

(3,307 posts)
6. in which case maryland should arrest the top doj officials for murder
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 01:28 PM
Friday

charge them under state law. no pardons. and lock them up for life without parole

sop

(13,727 posts)
5. The irony of this is Republicans justify mass deportations of law-abiding, productive, tax-paying immigrants,
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 01:20 PM
Friday

people who have done absolutely nothing wrong other than violate some regulation, by solemnly proclaiming: "These people may not have committed any crimes, but they are breaking the law...we are a nation of laws...we have to follow the law...what would America become without the rule of law?"

But when Trump and his henchmen commit crimes, flaunt the law, or refuse to comply with Supreme Court rulings, the "rule of law" means nothing.

LetMyPeopleVote

(161,688 posts)
9. The hearing did not go well for the DOJ- the trial court is piss
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 01:38 PM
Friday

At the hearing the DOJ is refusing to tell the court what had been done to return Mr. Garcia









The trial court is pissed

LetMyPeopleVote

(161,688 posts)
10. DOJ lawyer tells judge he doesn't know whereabouts of mistakenly deported Maryland man
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 01:51 PM
Friday

The trial judge is piss



https://abcnews.go.com/US/after-supreme-court-ruling-judge-sets-hearing-maryland/story?id=120703441

A deputy assistant attorney general told the judge overseeing the case of Kilmar Armando Abrego Garcia, the Maryland man who was deported to El Salvador in error, that he does "not have the information" regarding Abrego Garcia's whereabouts.

U.S. District Judge Paula Xinis began a hearing Friday on Abrego Garcia's deportation by asking the government to answer where Kilmer Armando Abrego Garcia is.

"Where is he and under whose authority?" she repeatedly asked.

"I do not have that knowledge, and therefore I cannot relate that knowledge," DOJ attorney Drew Ensign said.

"I'm not asking for state secrets, I'm asking where one man who is wrongly and illegally deported, removed from this country [is]," Xinis said.

"Your Honor, I do not have the information provided to me that I can provide to you," Ensign said again.

The judge decided to go ahead with Friday's hearing after the Trump administration sought to delay the hearing until next week. The Justice Department on Friday morning asked her to reschedule the hearing for Wednesday, April 16, two days after El Salvador President Nayib Bukele is scheduled to meet with the White House -- but the judge, in a filing, kept the hearing date as scheduled.

Xinis, at the start of the hearing, said has three questions for DOJ: The current physical location and custodial status of Abrego Garcia, what steps the Trump administration has taken to facilitate his return, and what additional steps the government will take and when to facilitate Abrego Garcia's return.

markodochartaigh

(2,634 posts)
19. Trump has been given immunity
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 03:20 PM
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by the supremacist court. But his agents are still liable. Of course if the judge holds those agents in contempt then Trump would very likely pardon them. I think that our country is backed into a very ugly corner.

GiqueCee

(2,130 posts)
23. The guy is...
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 03:56 PM
Friday

... Schrodinger's cat.
Trump told everyone that ONLY he and the DOJ would determine what the law is. Apparently, no one was listening. Or, like total fools, they said, Oh, they would never go THAT far! Guess again. They've already gone a LOT farther than "THAT far", because, thanks to the SCROTUS, they can.
Roberts and his corrupt cronies are going to have a LOT to answer for. Impeachment will be the least of their worries.

Cirsium

(2,312 posts)
15. Musk
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 02:50 PM
Friday

Can we share information without having tech bros in the loop? Shouldn't we have a 100% boycott of X at this point?

"It's more than theft. It's a violation. Data rights are human rights."

From " target="_blank">This Is What a Digital Coup Looks Like Carole Cadwallad

Iamscrewed

(71 posts)
18. The fall of Rome didn't happen in a day
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 03:18 PM
Friday

Impeach for failure to defend the Constitution
Impeach for the emollumet violations
Impeach for the blatant treason
The 25th amendment
How bad does it have to get before something gets worse
1930s Germany

Iamscrewed

(71 posts)
28. Elected criminality
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 06:20 PM
Friday

Something didn't get through on my last post.
Impeach for dereliction of duty
Impeach for failure of oath of office
Impeach for all the money crimes
Impeach for treason
25th amendment
How stupid does this have to get?

LetMyPeopleVote

(161,688 posts)
24. Judge demands 'daily updates' on whether Trump admin is complying with court order to return illegally deported man
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 04:55 PM
Friday

The judge is piss off at the trump DOJ
https://bsky.app/profile/politico.com/post/3lmkoimx2ak2x




https://www.politico.com/news/2025/04/11/trump-administration-illegal-deportation-el-salvador-00286877

GREENBELT, Maryland — An exasperated federal judge commanded the Trump administration Friday to begin providing “daily updates” on whether it is doing anything to comply with her order to return a Maryland man — illegally deported to El Salvador last month — back to the United States.

U.S. District Judge Paula Xinis scolded the administration for refusing to provide even “basic” details about Kilmar Abrego Garcia’s location, despite her demand for an update by Friday morning.....

The administration’s stonewalling, which Xinis described as “extremely troubling,” raised the specter that it is defying the order that the judge issued last week and that the Supreme Court largely upheld Thursday.

Xinis, an Obama appointee, said that without any information — or even an acknowledgment that the administration had done anything at all — she could only conclude that the administration had “done nothing to facilitate the return of Mr. Abrego Garcia.

“There’s an easy way to combat that,” she said, “and that’s just to tell me whether you’ve done anything and if so, what.”

Xinis’ new directive requires the daily updates to come from an administration official with “personal knowledge” of efforts to return Abrego Garcia to the United States. But Justice Department officials said they may not be prepared to comply with her demands until at least Monday......

Xinis told Ensign that if Trump administration officials were depriving him of information she demanded, then “you don’t have full and effective contact with your clients.”

usedtobedemgurl

(1,642 posts)
30. I wonder if it would be possible for the citizens to get him back.
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 06:37 PM
Friday

El Salvador took him for money. What if we paid more money? Like a Go Fund Me?

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