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Question: How did a loathesome dirtbag like Andrew Jackson get onto the the $20 bill? (Original Post) AStern Apr 11 OP
According to Wikipedia: Ocelot II Apr 11 #1
So giant middle finger to Jackson Johonny Apr 11 #4
Don't expect to be invited to a Jefferson-Jackson Dinner. Sneederbunk Apr 11 #2
I've never liked him either. Haggard Celine Apr 11 #3
If Andrew Jackson were alive today, Aristus Apr 11 #5
Or he'd have a prominent position in the current administration. Ocelot II Apr 11 #6
Or both. The two are not mutually exclusive...nt Wounded Bear Saturday #33
Wearing a red hat too. bluesbassman Apr 11 #7
I think so too. Haggard Celine Apr 11 #13
Hmmm...was thinking of "The Trail of Tears"? Forced march from Georgia to ?Oklahoma. electric_blue68 Saturday #39
Message auto-removed Name removed Saturday #36
tRump really likes Jackson. Interesting that Jackson, McKinley and Hoover all caused big depressions. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 11 #9
Never knew he liked Hoover Polybius Apr 11 #15
I didn't say he liked Hoover, did I. I put Hoover in for the model of the coming tRump economic disaster. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 11 #16
Looking back at your post, no you didn't Polybius Apr 11 #17
No worries. It was just enough ambiguous. My fault. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 11 #20
My assumption about Trump and McKinley misanthrope Apr 11 #28
Actually if he had never become President Hoover would be fairly fondly remembered dsc Apr 11 #19
hoover got great publicity for handling the 1927 flood rampartd Apr 11 #21
Also saved Russia during their famine in the 1920s ITAL Apr 11 #24
yeah he just rose to the wrong job. dsc Saturday #38
He was a highly complicated character Polybius Apr 11 #8
His genocide of Indigenous Americas was unquestionably worse than "questionable". . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 11 #10
Most certainly Polybius Apr 11 #11
Here in Fla., he's best known for fighting the Seminole Indians. The two executions allegorical oracle Saturday #32
There have been MAGAts in every century. nt allegorical oracle Apr 11 #12
It was originally designed as toilet paper, but there was a mix-up. milestogo Apr 11 #14
He was a fairly popular figure for a long time ITAL Apr 11 #18
jackson was a hero rampartd Apr 11 #22
A very complicated figure ITAL Apr 11 #25
Which is why there's an avatar of Jackson right here on DU Polybius Saturday #30
Born in SC and rose to prominence in TN -- always more popular with Southerners than Northerners. eppur_se_muova Apr 11 #26
I went to Andrew Jackson Hight School in Queens NY in the early 1960's Mossfern Apr 11 #23
The same way a fascist bastard choie Apr 11 #27
Check this out... AntiFascist Apr 11 #29
He won the Battle of New Orleans. PCB66 Saturday #31
Better question: How did a loathesome dirtbag like Donald Trump get elected? n/t valleyrogue Saturday #34
Didn't hurt that in the 1950s there was a huge hit song about Jackson-- allegorical oracle Saturday #35
You think that's bad? That is just paper. DFW Saturday #37
Wow, what a mixed bag of good, and horrific actions! electric_blue68 Saturday #40

Ocelot II

(124,252 posts)
1. According to Wikipedia:
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 12:43 PM
Apr 11
Andrew Jackson has appeared on the $20 bill since the series of 1928. The placement of Jackson on the $20 bill is considered ironic; as president, he vehemently opposed both the National Bank and use of paper money. After the president of the Second Bank of the United States, Nicholas Biddle, defied Jackson and requested the renewal of the charter of the Second Bank in an election year, Jackson responded by making it a goal of his administration to destroy the National Bank.[3][4] Jackson prevailed over Biddle, and the absence of the Second Bank contributed to a real estate bubble in the mid-1830s. The bubble collapsed in the Panic of 1837, leading to a deep depression.[5]

Given Jackson's opposition to the concept of a National Bank, his presence on the $20 bill was controversial from the start. When pressed to reveal why the various images were chosen for the new bills, Treasury officials denied there was any political motivation. Instead, they insisted that the images were based only on their relative familiarity to the public. An article in the June 30, 1929 issue of the New York Times, stated "The Treasury Department maintains stoutly that the men chosen for small bills, which are naturally the ones in most demand, were so placed because their faces were most familiar to the majority of people."[6] It is also true that 1928 coincides with the 100th anniversary of Jackson's election as president, but no evidence has surfaced that would suggest that this was a factor in the decision. According to more recent inquiries of the U.S. Treasury: "Treasury Department records do not reveal the reason that portraits of these particular statesmen were chosen in preference to those of other persons of equal importance and prominence."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_twenty-dollar_bill

Johonny

(23,355 posts)
4. So giant middle finger to Jackson
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 12:53 PM
Apr 11

Is a valid possibility as to why he is on the twenty. . . Interesting.

Haggard Celine

(17,141 posts)
3. I've never liked him either.
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 12:47 PM
Apr 11

The MAGAs live them some Andrew Jackson. He was an early demagogue in our history. Nothing to admire about the crazy asshole. I think he was mentally ill, maybe bipolar. I hope they eventually take him off of our currency.

Aristus

(69,667 posts)
5. If Andrew Jackson were alive today,
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 12:54 PM
Apr 11

he'd be a shotgun-waving, get-off-my-lawn, black jogger-shooting madman.

Haggard Celine

(17,141 posts)
13. I think so too.
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 01:09 PM
Apr 11

He probably would have been at Jan. 6 as well. And just think of how many people he killed, especially the Indians.

Response to Aristus (Reply #5)

Bernardo de La Paz

(54,741 posts)
9. tRump really likes Jackson. Interesting that Jackson, McKinley and Hoover all caused big depressions. . . nt
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 01:06 PM
Apr 11

Polybius

(19,769 posts)
15. Never knew he liked Hoover
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 01:11 PM
Apr 11

What's there to like about him? Conservatives like Calvin Coolidge much more.

Bernardo de La Paz

(54,741 posts)
16. I didn't say he liked Hoover, did I. I put Hoover in for the model of the coming tRump economic disaster. . . nt
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 01:13 PM
Apr 11

Polybius

(19,769 posts)
17. Looking back at your post, no you didn't
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 01:17 PM
Apr 11

I misread when I saw Hoover next to Jackson and McKinley (both of whom Trump likes).

misanthrope

(8,669 posts)
28. My assumption about Trump and McKinley
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 04:19 PM
Apr 11

Trump knew absolutely nothing about the 25th POTUS before someone used McKinley as a way to reinforce Trump's fondness for tariffs. They passed on scant information on McKinley and Trump just gulped it down.

I would be surprised if he could even tell you McKinley's VP. Trump is a genuinely incurious person.

dsc

(52,867 posts)
19. Actually if he had never become President Hoover would be fairly fondly remembered
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 01:19 PM
Apr 11

as a very skilled organizer and humanitarian. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herbert_Hoover

War upon Germany was declared in April 1917, and American food was essential to Allied victory. With the U.S. mobilizing for war, President Wilson appointed Hoover to head the U.S. Food Administration, which was charged with ensuring the nation's food needs during the war.[79] Hoover had hoped to join the administration in some capacity since at least 1916, and he obtained the position after lobbying several members of Congress and Wilson's confidant, Edward M. House.[80] Earning the appellation of "food czar", Hoover recruited a volunteer force of hundreds of thousands of women and deployed propaganda in movie theaters, schools, and churches.[81] He carefully selected men to assist in the agency leadership—Alonzo E. Taylor (technical abilities), Robert Taft (political associations), Gifford Pinchot (agricultural influence), and Julius Barnes (business acumen).[82]

World War I had created a global food crisis that dramatically increased food prices and caused food riots and starvation in the countries at war. Hoover's chief goal as food czar was to provide supplies to the Allied Powers, but he also sought to stabilize domestic prices and to prevent domestic shortages.[83] Under the broad powers granted by the Food and Fuel Control Act, the Food Administration supervised food production throughout the United States, and the administration made use of its authority to buy, import, store, and sell food.[84] Determined to avoid rationing, Hoover established set days for people to avoid eating specified foods and save them for soldiers' rations: meatless Mondays, wheatless Wednesdays, and "when in doubt, eat potatoes". These policies were dubbed "Hooverizing" by government publicists, in spite of Hoover's continual orders that publicity should not mention him by name.[85] The Food Administration shipped 23 million metric tons of food to the Allied Powers, preventing their collapse and earning Hoover great acclaim.[86] As head of the Food Administration, Hoover gained a following in the United States, especially among progressives who saw in Hoover an expert administrator and symbol of efficiency.[87] He was elected to the American Philosophical Society during his tenure.[88]

ITAL

(1,007 posts)
24. Also saved Russia during their famine in the 1920s
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 02:05 PM
Apr 11

AND fed Europe once more after WWII at the behest of President Truman. Hoover was not a good president, but he was one of our greatest humanitarians.

Polybius

(19,769 posts)
8. He was a highly complicated character
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 01:04 PM
Apr 11

Although he was involved in many questionable actions, he co-founded the Democratic Party with Martin Van Buren and accomplished significant successes. The Admins even added an Andrew Jackson avatar right here on DU. Presidential historians rarely put him in the bottom 25 either.

allegorical oracle

(4,617 posts)
32. Here in Fla., he's best known for fighting the Seminole Indians. The two executions
Sat Apr 12, 2025, 02:51 PM
Saturday

of British men (for assisting the Seminoles) occurred near where I live.

Wikipedia:
Jackson invaded Florida, captured the Spanish fort of St. Marks, and occupied Pensacola. Seminole and Spanish resistance was effectively ended by May 1818. He also captured two British subjects, Robert Ambrister and Alexander Arbuthnot, who had been working with the Seminoles. After a brief trial, Jackson executed both of them, causing an international incident with the British.

Have no use for him and am not surprised TSF admires him. (At one point Jackson owned 150 slaves).

ITAL

(1,007 posts)
18. He was a fairly popular figure for a long time
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 01:18 PM
Apr 11

He was really the first "common man" President, as he rose from basically nothing and made himself though his force of will. The public loved him for that for years afterward. Even many figures in the Whig Party, which formed basically solely as a response to him kind of admired him (even as they feared the man). I remember reading a bio of Abraham Lincoln, and even as devout a supporter of Henry Clay as he was, he invoked Jackson positively in speeches as a younger politician. I want to say that even presidents as late as Harry Truman counted him among their heroes (okay, so does Trump, but that's only because Steve Bannon made the connection...Trump probably didn't know a thing about him prior)..

Jackson didn't back down during the Nullification Crisis, which later Lincoln partially used as justification for going after the secessionists. Jackson also hated the idea of a permanent political class. Mostly why he was beloved IMHO was his symbolism. The years immediately preceding his presidential terms saw a massive increase in voting rights expanded beyond the wealthy gentry and Old Hickory personified that to the public (even though by that time he was wealthy himself) proving that those other than aristocrats with family connections like John Q. Adams could achieve high office.

He was an early believer that the president should have term limits, and that the Electoral College abolished (partially since he lost in 1824 despite having the most popular votes).

That said, obviously he has horrific things on his ledger, even not counting the Trail of Tears (which given treatment of Natives before and after isn't even be the worst thing we did to them). The Bank Wars crippled our economy. His institution of the spoils system, which became more and more corrupt in the decades after he left. His tendency to make the political personal and vice versa presaged figures (and his extraordinarily thin skin) like Donald Trump.

James Parton, an early biographer of Jackson still has the best description ever for that man of contradictions.

"Andrew Jackson, I am given to understand, was a patriot and a traitor. He was one of the greatest generals, and wholly ignorant of the art of war. A brilliant writer, elegant, eloquent, without being able to compose a correct sentence or spell words of four syllables. The first of statesmen, he never devised, he never framed, a measure. He was the most candid of men, and was capable of the most profound dissimulation. A most law-defying law-obeying citizen. A stickler for discipline, he never hesitated to disobey his superior. A democratic autocrat. An urbane savage. An atrocious saint."

Pretty much.

rampartd

(1,827 posts)
22. jackson was a hero
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 01:51 PM
Apr 11

he commanded probably the most diverse army ever assembled at new orleans.

ITAL

(1,007 posts)
25. A very complicated figure
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 02:07 PM
Apr 11

As I said prior. His triumph at New Orleans was astonishing in its completeness over a much better equipped enemy.

Polybius

(19,769 posts)
30. Which is why there's an avatar of Jackson right here on DU
Sat Apr 12, 2025, 02:05 PM
Saturday

The Admins wouldn't have put it up if he didn't do good things.

eppur_se_muova

(38,870 posts)
26. Born in SC and rose to prominence in TN -- always more popular with Southerners than Northerners.
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 03:01 PM
Apr 11

Remember, he owned a large plantation and many slaves. He was a Southerner of his day, through and through. Most of the US was rural at the time, and as a frontier soldier and "Indian fighter", that added to his popularity, since most rural Americans shared his attitudes towards non-whites. And in his battles -- electoral defeat, then victory in a rematch -- with John Quincy Adams, he was seen as siding with the "common people" vs the educated and moneyed elites. No wonder Steve Bannon tries to present Turnip as a second Jackson -- they shared a great many flaws, but no virtues (since Turnip doesn't have any), and for MAGAts that superficial resemblance is good enough.

Mossfern

(3,692 posts)
23. I went to Andrew Jackson Hight School in Queens NY in the early 1960's
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 01:55 PM
Apr 11

This was our school song:

Let us sing of Andrew Jackson
And be like him if we can
He was nearly always right
And he dearly love to fight
For he was a mighty man
He was daring and audacious
He was steadfast and pugnacious
There has been no other like him
Since our history began

Old Hickory and Victory
Shall be our battle cry
Forever shall we fight
And ever be in the right
Oh Andrew Jackson for you!


We weren't taught about the nasty stuff he did.
The song is kind of damning praise though.

AntiFascist

(13,227 posts)
29. Check this out...
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 06:09 PM
Apr 11
A local story recalls that Andrew Jackson was in fact born in Boneybefore and smuggled into America under his mother’s dress, therefore making his Presidency illegitimate – there is even evidence of him being born in Boneybefore before embarking on the voyage to America.

https://carrickfergushistory.co.uk/

PCB66

(14 posts)
31. He won the Battle of New Orleans.
Sat Apr 12, 2025, 02:10 PM
Saturday

That made him a hero in his time.

History reflects perception, not reality.

allegorical oracle

(4,617 posts)
35. Didn't hurt that in the 1950s there was a huge hit song about Jackson--
Sat Apr 12, 2025, 05:20 PM
Saturday

The Battle of New Orleans

In 1814, we took a little trip
Along with Colonel Jackson down the mighty Mississip'
We took a little bacon and we took a little beans
And we caught the bloody British in the town of New Orleans
We fired our guns and the British kept a-comin'
There wasn't as many as there was a while ago
We fired once more and they began to runnin'
On down the Mississippi to the Gulf of Mexico

On Billboard magazine's rankings of the top songs in the first 50 years of the Billboard Hot 100 chart, "The Battle of New Orleans" was ranked as the 28th song overall and the number-one country music song to appear on the chart.

DFW

(57,756 posts)
37. You think that's bad? That is just paper.
Sat Apr 12, 2025, 05:28 PM
Saturday

You have seen the guy they let into the Oval Office for real last January!

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