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LetMyPeopleVote

(161,698 posts)
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 10:17 AM Apr 11

The trump DOJ is stalling providing information to trial judge about steps to facilitate the release Mr. Garcia

This poor man is in a hellish place and the trump administration wants to delay responding to the trial judge's requests for information. This is bad faith




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The trump DOJ is stalling providing information to trial judge about steps to facilitate the release Mr. Garcia (Original Post) LetMyPeopleVote Apr 11 OP
Abrego Garcia opposes govt motion to postpone. LetMyPeopleVote Apr 11 #1
The truth is probably that they haven't got a clue where he is. Ocelot II Apr 11 #2
I am worried if this poor man is still alive LetMyPeopleVote Apr 11 #3
Me, too. Ocelot II Apr 11 #10
That is my fear too Bettie Apr 11 #12
If he is, id bet the plan is to delay until hes not... Volaris Apr 11 #17
Every day his risk increases. Irish_Dem Apr 11 #26
Garcia is no exception Johnny2X2X Apr 11 #4
They are using them as an example for everyone else. That's why they are particularly cruel. Baitball Blogger Apr 11 #8
They claim all 250 are gang members. WarGamer Apr 11 #27
Kilmar Abrego Garcia's lawyers blast DOJ's request this morning to move all of this into mid-next week. mahatmakanejeeves Apr 11 #5
Unfortunately, this guy is probably no longer with us. BlueTsunami2018 Apr 11 #6
Because they don't want him to talk to the media when he gets here. Renew Deal Apr 11 #9
Garcia's atty needs to get in touch with "Big Balls" -- Musk's Blitzkrieg expert. allegorical oracle Apr 11 #7
JUST IN: Judge Xinis *grants* the government a partial extension ... to 11:30 AM. https:// LetMyPeopleVote Apr 11 #11
Update: DOJ has missed its 11:30 a.m. deadline. mahatmakanejeeves Apr 11 #13
Judge scolds DOJ for demanding delay in mistakenly deported man case LetMyPeopleVote Apr 11 #14
Non-update: We are now past noon with no responsive filing from DOJ. mahatmakanejeeves Apr 11 #15
I think they are telling the Judge in a subtle way to republianmushroom Apr 11 #16
BREAKING: DOJ says it won't comply with Judge Xinis' order because the deadline she set is "impracticable." LetMyPeopleVote Apr 11 #18
Summon the DOJ lawyers to the courtroom. Have them taken into custody for contempt. Efilroft Sul Apr 11 #19
Saw that coming. orangecrush Apr 11 #20
DOJ's position ignores Xinis' request for information about steps that the administraiton has already taken LetMyPeopleVote Apr 11 #21
NEW: Trump admin balks at court order after SCOTUS order in Abrego Garcia case. mahatmakanejeeves Apr 11 #22
The hearing did not go well for the DOJ- the trial court is piss LetMyPeopleVote Apr 11 #23
DOJ lawyer tells judge he doesn't know whereabouts of mistakenly deported Maryland man LetMyPeopleVote Apr 11 #24
Judge demands 'daily updates' on whether Trump admin is complying with court order to return illegally deported man LetMyPeopleVote Apr 11 #25
NEW from a federal judge in Maryland immigrant Kilmar Abrego Garcia's case: LetMyPeopleVote Apr 11 #28

Ocelot II

(124,252 posts)
2. The truth is probably that they haven't got a clue where he is.
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 10:35 AM
Apr 11

They just dumped him off in El Salvador and left him to the locals to throw him in their gulag, and there isn't even a record of his name or whether the poor SOB even is still alive. And they're flailing around trying to figure out how to explain that the people they send to El Salvador are treated like literal garbage and no records are kept - something ICE probably knew all along.

Ocelot II

(124,252 posts)
10. Me, too.
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 10:57 AM
Apr 11

Maybe he isn't, and maybe that's why the accursed DoJ is stalling - assuming they even know what happened to him.

Volaris

(10,817 posts)
17. If he is, id bet the plan is to delay until hes not...
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 12:20 PM
Apr 11

Can't be having him back here AND ALIVE to talk to the Press and sue these fuckers for a billion dollars...
I won't take the bet, but he's not coming back here except in a bag with a signed NDA.

I'd love to be wrong.

Johnny2X2X

(22,730 posts)
4. Garcia is no exception
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 10:37 AM
Apr 11

90% of the people Trump has sent to these El Salvadorian hellhole prisons have no criminal record. They're just rounding up regular people who may have overstayed their Visas and sending them to the worst prison in the world and paying the prison to house them.

WarGamer

(16,933 posts)
27. They claim all 250 are gang members.
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 05:45 PM
Apr 11

I'd like to see the documents.

What's the proof?

Have you seen any public documentation?

mahatmakanejeeves

(64,327 posts)
5. Kilmar Abrego Garcia's lawyers blast DOJ's request this morning to move all of this into mid-next week.
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 10:37 AM
Apr 11
Chris Geidner
‪@chrisgeidner.bsky.social‬

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Kilmar Abrego Garcia's lawyers — appropriately, imho — blast DOJ's request this morning to move all of this into mid-next week.

‪Chris Geidner‬ ‪@chrisgeidner.bsky.social‬
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1m
At the same time, Kilmar Abrego Garcia's lawyers have already responded, calling this morning's actions by the government "another stunning display of arrogance and cruelty." They "vigorously oppose" the extension request and will be at the 1p hearing. storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.us...

This Court’s order to facilitate Abrego Garcia’s return was issued one week ago. It was
not stayed until Monday afternoon. Accordingly, the Government should have been taking actions
Friday, Saturday, Sunday, and Monday morning, and the Government can report on those. The
Case 8:25-cv-00951-PX Document 54 Filed 04/11/25 Page 1 of 2
2
Supreme Court lifted the stay yesterday evening. Accordingly, the Government should have been
taking actions last night and this morning, and it can report on those. The Government should
likewise be in a position to tell the Court in general terms what its further plan is to facilitate Mr.
Abrego Garcia’s return, and who in the Government is responsible for implementing that plan.
ALT

Instead, the Government continues to delay, obfuscate, and flout court orders, while a
man’s life and safety is at risk. Its request for an extension—filed this morning in defiance of the
Court’s rules requiring consultation with Plaintiffs’ counsel—is another stunning display of
arrogance and cruelty. It did not take that time to ponder whether to remove Garcia—which it
effectuated within 72 hours of his unlawful seizure—and it does not need that time to comply with
this Court’s and the Supreme Court’s rulings. We vigorously oppose the Government’s motion,
and we further request that the Government immediately report on Mr. Abrego Garcia’s safety and
well being. We will attend the scheduled hearing at 1 p.m.
Dated: April 11, 2025 QUINN EMANUEL URQUHART &
SULLIVAN, LLP
ALT
April 11, 2025 at 10:33 AM

https://bsky.app/profile/chrisgeidner.bsky.social/post/3lmkaeqwuds2w

BlueTsunami2018

(4,302 posts)
6. Unfortunately, this guy is probably no longer with us.
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 10:40 AM
Apr 11

Or they have no idea where he is. Same with the other alleged “gang members” they shipped off.

I don’t see any reason why they wouldn’t bring him back immediately unless they know he’s dead or they don’t know where he is.

Renew Deal

(83,796 posts)
9. Because they don't want him to talk to the media when he gets here.
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 10:52 AM
Apr 11

He can give a first hand story about the experience and he now has some notoriety, so the story will get attention. It would be 60 Minutes most watched episode of the year

allegorical oracle

(4,617 posts)
7. Garcia's atty needs to get in touch with "Big Balls" -- Musk's Blitzkrieg expert.
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 10:40 AM
Apr 11

He knows how to move government institutions with lightning speed.

LetMyPeopleVote

(161,698 posts)
11. JUST IN: Judge Xinis *grants* the government a partial extension ... to 11:30 AM. https://
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 10:59 AM
Apr 11

The judge is not happy



mahatmakanejeeves

(64,327 posts)
13. Update: DOJ has missed its 11:30 a.m. deadline.
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 11:42 AM
Apr 11
Chris Geidner
‪@chrisgeidner.bsky.social‬

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Update: DOJ has missed its 11:30 a.m. deadline.

‪Chris Geidner‬ ‪@chrisgeidner.bsky.social‬
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55m
BREAKING: Xinis holds, criticizing DOJ’s filing, saying their claimed need for more time “blinks at reality,” and giving them until 11:30a to comply with the order for a declaration. The 1p hearing stays. storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.us...

ORDER
The Defendants ask this Court to extend the deadline to respond to its Order at ECF No.
51, arguing that the Defendants require several days to "meaningful[ly] review the Supreme Court's decision," issued last night at 7:00 PM, and that it is "impracticable for Defendants to
comply with the Court's 9:30 AM deadline only a few hours after the Supreme Court issued an order in this case." ECF No. 55. This, Defendants say, supports extension of the filing deadline until April 15, 2025. The Court largely rejects the Defendants' request.
First, the Defendants' act of sending Abrego Garcia to El Salvador was wholly illegal
from the moment it happened, and Defendants have been on notice of the same. Indeed, as the Supreme Court credits, "the United States acknowledges that Abrego Garcia was subject to a withholding order forbidding his removal to El Salvador, and that the removal to El Salvador was therefore illegal." Noem v. Abrego Garcia, 604 U.S.__ (2025), Slip Op. at 1. Second, the Defendants' suggestion that they need time to meaningfully review a four-page Order that
reaffirms this basic principle blinks at reality. Third, the Defendants misconstrue the Supreme
Court's Order stating that the original deadline at ECF No. 21 is "no longer effective," as
ALT

somehow suggesting that the Court's amended Order requiring prompt attention to this matter is
"inconsistent" with the Supreme Court's directive. Nothing could be further from the truth. As
the Supreme Court plainly stated, "the Government should be prepared to share what it can concerning the steps it has taken and the prospect of further steps," Slip Op. at 2 - all against the backdrop of this Court's needing to "ensure that the Government lives up to its obligations to
follow the law." Id. at 4 (Sotomayor, J., concurring).
Accordingly, the Court GRANTS in part the request and will extend the filing deadline
until 11:30 AM today. The hearing date and time will remain unchanged.
April 11, 2025
Date
IS/
Paula Xinis
United States District Judge
ALT
April 11, 2025 at 11:34 AM

https://bsky.app/profile/chrisgeidner.bsky.social/post/3lmkdrdqgok2w

LetMyPeopleVote

(161,698 posts)
14. Judge scolds DOJ for demanding delay in mistakenly deported man case
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 11:44 AM
Apr 11

This judge is getting pissed at trump's DOJ



https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/5244546-judge-trump-doj-mistakenly-deported-man/

The federal judge who ordered the Trump administration to try to return Kilmar Abrego Garcia, the man mistakenly deported to El Salvador, scolded the Justice Department for demanding more time to update the court on next steps.

Following the Supreme Court’s ruling Thursday evening that upheld the thrust of U.S. District Judge Paula Xinis’s order, she scheduled a Friday hearing in her Greenbelt, Md., courtroom at 1 p.m. EDT.

The Justice Department asked Xinis to postpone the hearing until next Wednesday and delay a Friday morning deadline to provide a written update, saying the timeline was “impracticable.”

The judge agreed to give the government two additional hours to provide the written update but declined to move the hearing, chastising the Justice Department for its demand.

“First, the Defendants’ act of sending Abrego Garcia to El Salvador was wholly illegal from the moment it happened, and Defendants have been on notice of the same,” Xinis wrote.

She went on to say that the government’s suggestion that it needs “time to meaningfully review a four-page Order that reaffirms this basic principle blinks at reality."

mahatmakanejeeves

(64,327 posts)
15. Non-update: We are now past noon with no responsive filing from DOJ.
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 12:09 PM
Apr 11
Chris Geidner
‪@chrisgeidner.bsky.social‬

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Non-update: We are now past noon with no responsive filing from DOJ.

The *only* possibility here that I can think of — beyond outright ignoring the deadline — is that DOJ submitted something to chambers directly. There would still be issues and questions there, but, that's all I can think of.
April 11, 2025 at 12:04 PM

https://bsky.app/profile/chrisgeidner.bsky.social/post/3lmkfhzz32c2w

LetMyPeopleVote

(161,698 posts)
18. BREAKING: DOJ says it won't comply with Judge Xinis' order because the deadline she set is "impracticable."
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 12:31 PM
Apr 11

This will piss off the judge



Efilroft Sul

(3,962 posts)
19. Summon the DOJ lawyers to the courtroom. Have them taken into custody for contempt.
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 12:38 PM
Apr 11

Bonus points if the judge doesn't say where they're being held.

Come on, let's cross the Rubicon.

LetMyPeopleVote

(161,698 posts)
21. DOJ's position ignores Xinis' request for information about steps that the administraiton has already taken
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 01:04 PM
Apr 11

The trial judge is also asking for the DOJ to list all steps already taken to return Mr. Garcia. The DOJ is blowing off the judge



mahatmakanejeeves

(64,327 posts)
22. NEW: Trump admin balks at court order after SCOTUS order in Abrego Garcia case.
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 01:05 PM
Apr 11
Chris Geidner
‪@chrisgeidner.bsky.social‬

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NEW: Trump admin balks at court order after SCOTUS order in Abrego Garcia case.

On Friday, DOJ said it was "unable" to provide information about Kilmar Abrego Garcia to Judge Paula Xinis. A hearing in the case is set for 1 p..m. Friday.

Today, at Law Dork: www.lawdork.com/p/trump-admi...

Trump admin balks at court request after SCOTUS order in Abrego Garcia case
On Friday, DOJ said it was "unable" to provide information about Kilmar Abrego Garcia to Judge Paula Xinis. A hearing in the case is set for 1 p..m. Friday.
www.lawdork.com
April 11, 2025 at 12:59 PM

https://bsky.app/profile/chrisgeidner.bsky.social/post/3lmkijnduvk2w

LetMyPeopleVote

(161,698 posts)
23. The hearing did not go well for the DOJ- the trial court is piss
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 01:30 PM
Apr 11

At the hearing the DOJ is refusing to tell the court what had been done to return Mr. Garcia









The trial court is pissed

LetMyPeopleVote

(161,698 posts)
24. DOJ lawyer tells judge he doesn't know whereabouts of mistakenly deported Maryland man
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 01:52 PM
Apr 11

The trial judge is piss



https://abcnews.go.com/US/after-supreme-court-ruling-judge-sets-hearing-maryland/story?id=120703441

A deputy assistant attorney general told the judge overseeing the case of Kilmar Armando Abrego Garcia, the Maryland man who was deported to El Salvador in error, that he does "not have the information" regarding Abrego Garcia's whereabouts.

U.S. District Judge Paula Xinis began a hearing Friday on Abrego Garcia's deportation by asking the government to answer where Kilmer Armando Abrego Garcia is.

"Where is he and under whose authority?" she repeatedly asked.

"I do not have that knowledge, and therefore I cannot relate that knowledge," DOJ attorney Drew Ensign said.

"I'm not asking for state secrets, I'm asking where one man who is wrongly and illegally deported, removed from this country [is]," Xinis said.

"Your Honor, I do not have the information provided to me that I can provide to you," Ensign said again.

The judge decided to go ahead with Friday's hearing after the Trump administration sought to delay the hearing until next week. The Justice Department on Friday morning asked her to reschedule the hearing for Wednesday, April 16, two days after El Salvador President Nayib Bukele is scheduled to meet with the White House -- but the judge, in a filing, kept the hearing date as scheduled.

Xinis, at the start of the hearing, said has three questions for DOJ: The current physical location and custodial status of Abrego Garcia, what steps the Trump administration has taken to facilitate his return, and what additional steps the government will take and when to facilitate Abrego Garcia's return.

LetMyPeopleVote

(161,698 posts)
25. Judge demands 'daily updates' on whether Trump admin is complying with court order to return illegally deported man
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 04:45 PM
Apr 11

The judge is piss off at the trump DOJ
https://bsky.app/profile/politico.com/post/3lmkoimx2ak2x




https://www.politico.com/news/2025/04/11/trump-administration-illegal-deportation-el-salvador-00286877

GREENBELT, Maryland — An exasperated federal judge commanded the Trump administration Friday to begin providing “daily updates” on whether it is doing anything to comply with her order to return a Maryland man — illegally deported to El Salvador last month — back to the United States.

U.S. District Judge Paula Xinis scolded the administration for refusing to provide even “basic” details about Kilmar Abrego Garcia’s location, despite her demand for an update by Friday morning.....

The administration’s stonewalling, which Xinis described as “extremely troubling,” raised the specter that it is defying the order that the judge issued last week and that the Supreme Court largely upheld Thursday.

Xinis, an Obama appointee, said that without any information — or even an acknowledgment that the administration had done anything at all — she could only conclude that the administration had “done nothing to facilitate the return of Mr. Abrego Garcia.

“There’s an easy way to combat that,” she said, “and that’s just to tell me whether you’ve done anything and if so, what.”

Xinis’ new directive requires the daily updates to come from an administration official with “personal knowledge” of efforts to return Abrego Garcia to the United States. But Justice Department officials said they may not be prepared to comply with her demands until at least Monday......

Xinis told Ensign that if Trump administration officials were depriving him of information she demanded, then “you don’t have full and effective contact with your clients.”
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