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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums***Breaking*** Consumer Sentiment Reaches Its Second Lowest Level Since The 50s.
Inflation expectations are highest in forty years.
Irish_Dem
(79,918 posts)This is what has happened to China.
Since the Covid lockdown and the housing crisis, the Chinese stop spending.
The warehouses are full of merchandise. The economy is in trouble.
This is why China has had to dump merchandise on Europe.
roamer65
(37,817 posts)Even chopping at monthly expenses.
Others around me are as well.
Severe deflationary recession is coming, folks.
Irish_Dem
(79,918 posts)Going over my budget and chopping items.
Cutting back as much as I can.
Johonny
(25,506 posts)But it feels like a matter of time before I dump some of my kids after school stuff. That is the only place to find savings for me.
Irish_Dem
(79,918 posts)Pre school programs, then school, then after school programs, sports etc.
Some kids were doing this stuff until 11 pm at night.
And eating mostly fast food. No time for parents to cook at home.
Some kids did not do well with it.
bronxiteforever
(11,108 posts)a sinking ship. There are too many variables that TSF has set in motion.
I'm a fairly frugal person and need very little, so it's not like I prop up the economy much anyway. But, now I'm just going to dig in and buy cheaper brands of items I do need or not buy them at all.
If the only thing most Americans care about is material things, then I am going to do my part to destroy the economy on the GOP watch.
Prairie Gates
(7,215 posts)You shit all over them, and they lose confidence in the thing they are holding up. There is no John Galt on the supply side, but there are plenty of people who are going to hunker down on spending on the demand side, and they're the ones who count.
GregariousGroundhog
(7,593 posts)Gaugamela
(3,252 posts)Johnny2X2X
(23,693 posts)Scared consumers save, they don't spend. There was a little artificial boost before the tariffs of people buying big ticket items, that is past now.
It's what Republicans fail to see at every turn, the economy only grows when regular people have money to spend and are willing to spend it. No tax breaks for the rich matter one bit.
roamer65
(37,817 posts)Two very deflationary acts.
You are right.
CTyankee
(67,804 posts)I have worked out payment plans for oil heat and some earlier credit card debt. They will eventually be paid off but it won't be for at least 6 months. Then I go to paying all my bills with a debit (not credit) card.
Lovie777
(21,789 posts)is going down and consumer spending is up?
James48
(5,095 posts)Why no link?
wishstar
(5,803 posts)uponit7771
(93,491 posts)JCMach1
(29,094 posts)It's about to get orders of magnitude worse.
progree
(12,748 posts)The original source: http://www.sca.isr.umich.edu/
Here's a couple of the graphs:

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And links to three more:
Current Economic Conditions Index http://www.sca.isr.umich.edu/files/chiccr.pdf
Index of Consumer Expectations http://www.sca.isr.umich.edu/files/chicer.pdf
Expected Changes in Prices During the Next Five Years http://www.sca.isr.umich.edu/files/chpx5r.pdf
They also have Excel versions of all of the above.
All of the above are the 10 year graphs. They also have 50 year graphs, both PDF and Excel of all of the above.
http://www.sca.isr.umich.edu/charts.html