Rich McCormickproud co-sponsor of the SAVE act

[keepthemhonestO]

(urgent ~ Call your senators now, call every day)

So the save act passed the house again today, I am sure many of you know that that will disenfranchise women.

This requires your passport or driver's license match your birth certificate, women once they are married usually change their names to their married name. So that is not going to match and they will be disenfranchised.

I also read something that it will disenfranchise military I'm not sure how that disenfranchises them and in what way.

Anybody want to protest his offices specifically, since he's so proud to be a co-sponsor of this bill? If anybody's interested in this we could set up a protest flyer or something.

This has not passed the Senate, hopefully it doesn't. Everyone who sees this should call their Senators and tell them do not pass that SAVE act.

WTF?!?! I'm in the wrong timeline! I'm pretty sure I'm supposed to be in a different beautiful universe, where all the beautiful people are, who treat people well.

[valleyrogue]

1. Women are far more likely to vote Democratic.

This is nothing but an end run around the 19th Amendment.

Another reason for women to stop with the idiotic practice of changing their names upon marriage.

[keepthemhonestO]

2. So true

What a really weird practice to do change your name.

[valleyrogue]

3. It is absolutely stupid. It goes back to the time when women were property of men.

THIS is really what is driving this legislation--there are many religious nuts of the Christian reconstructionist type that want to get rid of women's right to vote because they believe women are stupid and are good only for screwing and bearing children.

Don't believe for ONE minute this has anything to do with citizenship--this is wholesale disenfranchisement of women.

Marriage itself is on the way out, and it is a good thing as far as I am concerned. This should further render it obsolete.

[keepthemhonestO]

4. I won't

Be pushing that on my child.

I will be discouraging that. I completely agree.

[cyclonefence]

5. I think this act has a lot to do with transgender people

for whom it is important that their ID, like a driver's license, match their obvious gender. It must be very hard to show up as a woman yet carry a passport or other ID--even a birth certificate--that says you are what you are not. This is a big problem for them.

I agree that McCormick doesn't want women to vote, but I believe that disenfranchising women is just collateral damage and not something planned. I bet they'll figure out a way to make married women who use their husband's surname--because that's what they want, right?--able to use IDs with that surname.

I think they hate transgender people more than they hate women, if you can imagine that.

[Hekate]

6. Transgenders are a tiny fraction of the population -- women are over 50%. I want to protect all human rights...

Have no doubt: Human rights are why I’ve been a Dem for 60 years.

If you are looking to do absolute maximum damage though, misogyny will do it every time.

MAGAGOP make an unholy stink about the supposed threat of transgendered people — but their real purpose is rigid control of everyone who is not a straight white male like Pete Hegseth. The war against American women in the 21st century is the most appalling thing I have ever witnessed, much less personally lived through. Just take away access to contraception in all its forms (being sure to redefine all contraception as abortion) , and tie every woman down to continual pregnancy. Voila: they will be unable to compete with the almighty male in the university or workplace, will be economically chained to a husband no matter how abusive, and their lives will be shortened as well.

[cyclonefence]

7. Yeah, but do they dare rile up the womenfolk?

I have a transgender nephew, and you wouldn't believe the shit he has had to go through to establish his identity.

Agreed that misogyny is the RW brand, but in this atmosphere I really think this particular bill targets TG people.

Hah! I'm 78, so I've been a Dem for 61 years!

God bless us old lefties. If only I had the physical ability to do the things I want to help destroy Trumpism. The heart is willing but the body fails.

[Hekate]

8. I salute you as another old lefty -- back at the rallies once again...

As for riling up us women, MAGAGOP doesn’t give a flying fig, as long as red state legislatures and the SCOTUS are on board. Some of us got it straight off when Dobbs was ruled on by SCOTUS, but so many people are just trying to get by in their own lives — and they’ve been blindsided. It’s ghastly. Women have died, been jailed, lost their fertility from sepsis — men have lost their wives and children have been orphaned — couples have had to quit IVF in mid-cycle and then try to have their precious stash of fertilized eggs transported to a blue state.

I’ve got a few non-binary and trans friends — I worry about the younger people (a relative term at my age) and what they are facing. One woman ran out of time to get her new paperwork in order, and now will have to travel as a man, because all her ID, passport and driver’s license, says she is a man. I think they are so at risk — much more than the settled families (gay and lesbian) who are in my neighborhood, and gods know they are also at risk if they leave California.

When they come for one of us, they come for all of us…

[keepthemhonestO]

9. I agree with part of that

However, they really love to put women down.

Remember it's a felony to hit a dog but it's not a felony to hit a woman. That is purposeful that was done during the first Trump administration. I therefore think that it was to take us back to before 1905 when women couldn't vote. This is a 2 for because they'll get the trans and they'll get the women.

[valleyrogue]

10. No, taking women's right to vote IS the plan.

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THIS is the thing that drives people like William Wolfe, Russell Vought, and all the rest of the P25 crowd. Religious wackos like Doug Wilson are also in favor of taking away women's suffrage. It is all about keeping white males in power.

Transgender people are a tiny, tiny percentage of the voting public. Women are more than half of it and are far more likely to vote Democratic than men.

If this were not true, than why are there no amendments stating this doesn't affect women's suffrage? There is your answer.