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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTrup's new tariff math looks a lot like ChatGPT's
https://www.theverge.com/news/642620/trump-tariffs-formula-ai-chatgpt-gemini-claude-grokWhen Donald Trump began yesterdays announcement of the White Houses latest trade policy brandishing a novelty-sized cardboard sign labeled Reciprocal Tariffs, the immediate and nearly unanimous response was bafflement. Trump slapped a 10 percent baseline tariff on all imports into the US, including from uninhabited islands, plus absurdly high rates on specific countries, supposedly based on tariffs charged to the USA which didnt match up to other, non-cardboard-sign-based estimates. Stock markets have plummeted and consumers are facing down sharp price hikes on potentially almost everything they buy.
Where did these numbers come from? Apparently, an oversimplified calculation that several major AI chatbots happen to recommend.
Economist James Surowiecki quickly reverse-engineered a possible explanation for the tariff pricing. He found you could recreate each of the White Houses numbers by simply taking a given countrys trade deficit with the US and dividing it by their total exports to the US. Halve that number, and you get a ready-to-use discounted reciprocal tariff. The White House objected to this claim and published the formula it says that it used, but as Politico points out, the formula looks like a dressed-up version of Surowieckis method.
In case you werent sure, Surowiecki calls this approach extraordinary nonsense. So why did Trumps team use it? Well, like plenty of people whove realized their homework is due in three hours time, it seems like they may have been tempted by AI.
Where did these numbers come from? Apparently, an oversimplified calculation that several major AI chatbots happen to recommend.
Economist James Surowiecki quickly reverse-engineered a possible explanation for the tariff pricing. He found you could recreate each of the White Houses numbers by simply taking a given countrys trade deficit with the US and dividing it by their total exports to the US. Halve that number, and you get a ready-to-use discounted reciprocal tariff. The White House objected to this claim and published the formula it says that it used, but as Politico points out, the formula looks like a dressed-up version of Surowieckis method.
In case you werent sure, Surowiecki calls this approach extraordinary nonsense. So why did Trumps team use it? Well, like plenty of people whove realized their homework is due in three hours time, it seems like they may have been tempted by AI.
If AI wanted to destroy the world, it is apparently off to a fast start, with a moron at the console.
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Trup's new tariff math looks a lot like ChatGPT's (Original Post)
usonian
Apr 4
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underpants
(189,865 posts)1. Stupid lazy unrelated math
Just get to a higher number.
I hadnt heard the half part of it. I understand and saw examples of it just being the deficit divided by the imports coming in to the US.
LetMyPeopleVote
(161,377 posts)2. John Oliver explains trump's tariff formula
Link to tweet
John Oliver: "[Trump's chart] features an estimate of 'Tariffs Charged to the USA' by other countries that nobody could figure out, until a financial journalist realized it was just how much we export to that country, minus how much we import, divided by how much we import."
