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usonian

(16,970 posts)
Fri Apr 4, 2025, 02:06 PM Apr 4

Trup's new tariff math looks a lot like ChatGPT's

https://www.theverge.com/news/642620/trump-tariffs-formula-ai-chatgpt-gemini-claude-grok

When Donald Trump began yesterday’s announcement of the White House’s latest trade policy brandishing a novelty-sized cardboard sign labeled “Reciprocal Tariffs,” the immediate and nearly unanimous response was bafflement. Trump slapped a 10 percent baseline tariff on all imports into the US, including from uninhabited islands, plus absurdly high rates on specific countries, supposedly based on “tariffs charged to the USA” — which didn’t match up to other, non-cardboard-sign-based estimates. Stock markets have plummeted and consumers are facing down sharp price hikes on potentially almost everything they buy.

Where did these numbers come from? Apparently, an oversimplified calculation that several major AI chatbots happen to recommend.

Economist James Surowiecki quickly reverse-engineered a possible explanation for the tariff pricing. He found you could recreate each of the White House’s numbers by simply taking a given country’s trade deficit with the US and dividing it by their total exports to the US. Halve that number, and you get a ready-to-use “discounted reciprocal tariff.” The White House objected to this claim and published the formula it says that it used, but as Politico points out, the formula looks like a dressed-up version of Surowiecki’s method.

In case you weren’t sure, Surowiecki calls this approach “extraordinary nonsense.” So why did Trump’s team use it? Well, like plenty of people who’ve realized their homework is due in three hours’ time, it seems like they may have been tempted by AI.


If AI wanted to destroy the world, it is apparently off to a fast start, with a moron at the console.
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Trup's new tariff math looks a lot like ChatGPT's (Original Post) usonian Apr 4 OP
Stupid lazy unrelated math underpants Apr 4 #1
John Oliver explains trump's tariff formula LetMyPeopleVote Monday #2

underpants

(189,865 posts)
1. Stupid lazy unrelated math
Fri Apr 4, 2025, 02:10 PM
Apr 4

Just get to a higher number.
I hadn’t heard the half part of it. I understand and saw examples of it just being the deficit divided by the imports coming in to the US.

LetMyPeopleVote

(161,377 posts)
2. John Oliver explains trump's tariff formula
Mon Apr 7, 2025, 10:55 AM
Monday


John Oliver: "[Trump's chart] features an estimate of 'Tariffs Charged to the USA' by other countries that nobody could figure out, until a financial journalist realized it was just how much we export to that country, minus how much we import, divided by how much we import."

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