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This is a bloodbath - 1,935.35 - update −2,016.06 (Original Post) malaise Apr 4 OP
Giving me a stomachache Walleye Apr 4 #1
Are we all broke now? Irish_Dem Apr 4 #2
I'm making money. roamer65 Apr 4 #45
If Trump finds out you are happy, he will come after you. Irish_Dem Apr 4 #49
Grrrrr....angry! roamer65 Apr 4 #61
That's much better. Irish_Dem Apr 4 #62
Same here. Prof. Toru Tanaka Apr 4 #74
Smart decision. roamer65 Apr 4 #88
iSN'T THE SEC SUPPOSED TO homegirl Apr 4 #54
King Donald has not given them permission to shut down? Irish_Dem Apr 4 #55
It's a pause in trading not a full shutdown unless it's 20% EdmondDantes_ Apr 4 #69
7% 13% 20% the way I read it Bengus81 Apr 4 #77
This message was self-deleted by its author yellow dahlia Apr 4 #91
The Dow is not the market. It is a 1896 adding machine price-weighted index of 30 stocks. Ditch the Dow, use SP500. . nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 4 #3
The Dow, S&P 500, NASDAQ -- all are fucked. Focus on that. W_HAMILTON Apr 4 #5
Putin is Ecstatic DENVERPOPS Apr 4 #18
Farmers don't matter Cirsium Apr 4 #59
Remember Wonder bread bags Joni Ernst? wolfie001 Apr 4 #73
But, Biden's age! stollen Apr 4 #65
And did you hear where fuckface Vance told us we need to suck up the tariff crisis? vapor2 Apr 4 #90
I hadn't heard stollen Saturday #92
S&P is down almost 5%. Ocelot II Apr 4 #10
Dow and S&P performance is highly correlated over time. Nt spooky3 Apr 4 #14
The percentage loss of the Dow is actually mnhtnbb Apr 4 #27
Nasdaq Composite and the Russel 2000 are in bear market territory. Pundits are calling it tRump "self-harming" USA. nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 4 #4
Putin himself couldn't have done more damage than his Russian puppet is doing to us right now. W_HAMILTON Apr 4 #6
They are linked at the hip - or perhaps other body parts. erronis Apr 4 #30
Wow −2,236.11 malaise Apr 4 #78
Has lost almost 7000 points since Biden's record high. sinkingfeeling Apr 4 #7
Russell 2000 is probably a better indicator (it's also bleeding out today, in case you were wondering) hatrack Apr 4 #8
I'm astounded that GOP legislators aren't coming unglued. TomSlick Apr 4 #9
Their bribes and kickbacks are GREAT. Captain Zero Apr 4 #32
Apparently they don't take calls or give town halls. Emails go to the circular file. erronis Apr 4 #33
That's political malpractice. TomSlick Apr 4 #89
They're all buying stock. For little to nothing. hamsterjill Apr 4 #37
This is not the time to go long jmowreader Apr 4 #83
My husband was just saying the same thing. Pacifist Patriot Apr 4 #53
Only when the retirement fund of the serfs disappear zorbasd Apr 4 #57
They probably already have their bug-out countries and accommodations set up. n/t TheBadWolf Apr 4 #72
I'm waiting for the "everyone back in the pool" tweet jmbar2 Apr 4 #11
And there seems to always be a bigger sell-off closer to closing time? kentuck Apr 4 #12
On a Friday when there's two days off to worry. Frasier Balzov Apr 4 #58
Getting close to circuit breaker time Arazi Apr 4 #13
I was thinking that, too -- is it 6%? obamanut2012 Apr 4 #17
7% of the previous days close Arazi Apr 4 #20
Thank you! I couldn't remember obamanut2012 Apr 4 #84
This is the worst it has been since the last time he helped to crash the market... kentuck Apr 4 #15
From Colbert's Thursday night monologue... krkaufman Apr 4 #60
So much winning. CoopersDad Apr 4 #16
Sharks love blood IronLionZion Apr 4 #19
Lots of insider trading. If we had any regulatory agencies they'd be looking at the longs/shorts. erronis Apr 4 #34
Musk will just fire all of them IronLionZion Apr 4 #41
He said "we're all gonna be rich!" Captain Zero Apr 4 #35
I can tell that my 401(k) managers are trying to do everything they can to protect against major losses. Pacifist Patriot Apr 4 #21
1,961.16 malaise Apr 4 #22
I'm not sure there is much of a bottom. I have been expecting the worst since 4:00 a.m. on November 06, 2024. Pacifist Patriot Apr 4 #25
1,965.10 underpants Apr 4 #26
Now down nearly 2100. CanonRay Apr 4 #28
Sorry and good luck! LymphocyteLover Apr 4 #23
The over built housing market here in Fl will stop. My house on market here past 35 days . FloridaBlues Apr 4 #40
Good luck to you! Pacifist Patriot Apr 4 #50
Losses verge on $10 Trillion since Inauguration mnhtnbb Apr 4 #24
Not to worry. The financial prince of darkness knows how to handle bankruptcies........from experience. Ping Tung Apr 4 #29
But don't worry... when it comes back up 1200 points he will claim a 1200 point victory!! mikelewis Apr 4 #31
Often the markets rally (at least gets less bad) at the end of the day. flashman13 Apr 4 #36
BTW If you hear people saying, "Buy the dip", run for the exits. flashman13 Apr 4 #39
My powder is sitting dry for the usual recessionary 50 pct correction. roamer65 Apr 4 #44
Individual investors put $4.7 Billion mnhtnbb Apr 4 #47
Fools.. Arazi Apr 4 #85
"Don't try to catch a falling knife." littlemissmartypants Apr 4 #48
I saw a bumper sticker yesterday gab13by13 Apr 4 #38
Are we sick of winning yet? IronLionZion Apr 4 #42
I'm doing well in Treasuries. roamer65 Apr 4 #43
I got out of stocks in January and only bonds & cash in my 401k now. But we are still getting hurt. SunSeeker Apr 4 #66
Cash is king right now. roamer65 Apr 4 #68
It's Friday westen Apr 4 #46
Not an excuse for what tsf has done SheltieLover Apr 4 #52
Oh please, just stop obamanut2012 Apr 4 #64
I feel liberated from the burden of having all that money invested Xipe Totec Apr 4 #51
OMG! Now Down 85000 in tRumpcoin! ImNotGod Apr 4 #56
As of this moment, the S&P 500 is down over 5% Wiz Imp Apr 4 #63
Wow Demovictory9 Apr 4 #67
Further Cuts Have Been Made... Further Cuts WILL Be Made... MayReasonRule Apr 4 #70
I was afraid to look at my accounts today, I did anyway. I've lost over 250K since the traitor took over. OverBurn Apr 4 #71
Ouch! mnhtnbb Apr 4 #79
-2200 Prairie Gates Apr 4 #75
Looks like it will close at its low for the day. mnhtnbb Apr 4 #76
Jesus Trump's an idiot Prairie Gates Apr 4 #80
DOW had a dead cat bounce. mnhtnbb Apr 4 #81
My parents are freaking out -- this has wiped out a huge chunk of their retirement accounts obamanut2012 Apr 4 #82
DOW down 15% from its high in January. surfered Apr 4 #86
S&P 500 closes down 5.97% (after a -4.84% drop yesterday) Wiz Imp Apr 4 #87

Prof. Toru Tanaka

(2,548 posts)
74. Same here.
Fri Apr 4, 2025, 03:50 PM
Apr 4

I went 100% treasuries when I was preparing for retirement in 2023 on my TSP account. I didn’t want to take gambles on the stock market at that point and with Numbnutz Krasnov driving the market into the shitter, I’m comfortable with my decision.

homegirl

(1,694 posts)
54. iSN'T THE SEC SUPPOSED TO
Fri Apr 4, 2025, 03:18 PM
Apr 4

shut down the Stock Exchange when it drops FIVE PERCENT in a day?

Response to homegirl (Reply #54)

Bernardo de La Paz

(54,445 posts)
3. The Dow is not the market. It is a 1896 adding machine price-weighted index of 30 stocks. Ditch the Dow, use SP500. . nt
Fri Apr 4, 2025, 01:19 PM
Apr 4

DENVERPOPS

(11,673 posts)
18. Putin is Ecstatic
Fri Apr 4, 2025, 02:14 PM
Apr 4

The farmers are just beginning to get royally freaked out........Major FAFO............none of them wondering deep down why they voted for Trump and all the other RepubliCON Politicians that promoted Trump and enabled him to carry out this Tragedy......

The RepubliCONS in the House and Senate, as well as the USSC members are so ignorant, they don't realize there is no need for a Legislative Branch or Judicial Branch in a tyranny, and they ALL will be kicked to the curb shortly, like everyone else in Trump world, his ENTIRE life............All of them should have noticed that his voters have all been thrown under the bus already....they have fulfilled their usefulness this one last time for electing Trump again.......They are no longer needed by the Republican Party......and just starting to figure it out.............All Rural Red Trumphumping Farmers are totally freaking out today..........and they should be.........

Cirsium

(2,235 posts)
59. Farmers don't matter
Fri Apr 4, 2025, 03:26 PM
Apr 4

Farmers are not a significant voting bloc and are no more or less likely to vote Republican than any other group of business owners. I every farmers started voting Democratic it wouldn't change the results of elections, even in rural districts. Here, in a very conservative farming area there are about 300 growers - farm owners - and 40-45% of them vote Democratic. Yet Trump got over 10,000 votes here.

It is the eaters that will suffer when farms are hurt and Trump will bail out the big farm owners, especially the large grain operations, the cattle ranchers, and the meat packing industry.

Trump and the Republicans are expert at invoking rugged individualist imagery, Hollywood stereotypes that resonate with people - cowboys, ranchers, farmers, miners, lumberjacks; Reagan on horseback, Bush with his fake ranch, Trump with his he-man collectibles. But we shouldn't buy into that propaganda and think that those represent significant voting blocs. They represent Walter Mitty fantasy voting blocs.

Trump makes people think they are somehow associated with heroic stereotypes when they go with him. It is all a bunch of nonsense.

wolfie001

(4,521 posts)
73. Remember Wonder bread bags Joni Ernst?
Fri Apr 4, 2025, 03:49 PM
Apr 4

What a clown creep. Eff her AND her Wonder bread bags.

stollen

(773 posts)
65. But, Biden's age!
Fri Apr 4, 2025, 03:35 PM
Apr 4

I made $200,000 in the market during Biden's last yr. *poof*

Little Marco fuck-face tells me I'm supposed to be happy. This is for the good of the country. I flation is now good. Recession is now good.

I got on a fb page of a friend with 350 friends, several whom I know to be wingnuts and with TSPs. I said that those who'd voted for Trump had created this debacle. Now FIX IT!

Nobody responded.

vapor2

(2,087 posts)
90. And did you hear where fuckface Vance told us we need to suck up the tariff crisis?
Fri Apr 4, 2025, 10:28 PM
Apr 4

REALLY ??? Such boorish words

Bernardo de La Paz

(54,445 posts)
4. Nasdaq Composite and the Russel 2000 are in bear market territory. Pundits are calling it tRump "self-harming" USA. nt
Fri Apr 4, 2025, 01:21 PM
Apr 4

TomSlick

(12,291 posts)
9. I'm astounded that GOP legislators aren't coming unglued.
Fri Apr 4, 2025, 01:30 PM
Apr 4

They have to be feeling the heat from back home.

TomSlick

(12,291 posts)
89. That's political malpractice.
Fri Apr 4, 2025, 07:03 PM
Apr 4

If a pissed-off constituent can't get a call through, they will become more pissed-off. No matter how red the district, pissed-off constituents are dangerous. If nothing else, a primary opponent is possible.

hamsterjill

(15,739 posts)
37. They're all buying stock. For little to nothing.
Fri Apr 4, 2025, 02:46 PM
Apr 4

That's the whole plan. Rocking the markets benefits the wealthy who have cash on hand. Screws ordinary people who live paycheck to paycheck.

Fuck every idiot MAGA that voted for Trump because they were too stupid to listen to the rest of us.

Pacifist Patriot

(24,953 posts)
53. My husband was just saying the same thing.
Fri Apr 4, 2025, 03:14 PM
Apr 4

We really don't understand the lack of proverbial pitchforks.

It would be useless to apply pressure to my GOP legislators. They are so far up the Trump backside, they see with orange eyeballs. And the thought of a democrat being elected around here is about as likely as the manufacturing on Heard Island to kick into high gear. But surely some swingier districts must be feeling the heat.

zorbasd

(374 posts)
57. Only when the retirement fund of the serfs disappear
Fri Apr 4, 2025, 03:21 PM
Apr 4

and come after them in the halls of congress with pitch forks, then they will realize....

jmbar2

(6,778 posts)
11. I'm waiting for the "everyone back in the pool" tweet
Fri Apr 4, 2025, 01:34 PM
Apr 4

The short squeeze is going to be epic.

Arazi

(7,689 posts)
20. 7% of the previous days close
Fri Apr 4, 2025, 02:27 PM
Apr 4

Level 1 (7% decline): Halts trading for 15 minutes.
Level 2 (13% decline): Halts trading for 15 minutes.
Level 3 (20% decline): Halts trading for the remainder of the trading day.

kentuck

(113,454 posts)
15. This is the worst it has been since the last time he helped to crash the market...
Fri Apr 4, 2025, 01:39 PM
Apr 4

During the Covid pandemic.

krkaufman

(13,837 posts)
60. From Colbert's Thursday night monologue...
Fri Apr 4, 2025, 03:28 PM
Apr 4

"Worst day for our economy since COVID. Just a little reminder ... This time, HE's the disease."

IronLionZion

(48,411 posts)
19. Sharks love blood
Fri Apr 4, 2025, 02:26 PM
Apr 4

Trump insiders are trading based on his idiotic policies. Somebody is getting wealthy from this while everyone else loses.

erronis

(18,846 posts)
34. Lots of insider trading. If we had any regulatory agencies they'd be looking at the longs/shorts.
Fri Apr 4, 2025, 02:43 PM
Apr 4

Wonder why they were knee-capped?

Pacifist Patriot

(24,953 posts)
21. I can tell that my 401(k) managers are trying to do everything they can to protect against major losses.
Fri Apr 4, 2025, 02:28 PM
Apr 4

The change in investment strategy is obvious. I still lost 3% of my retirement funding overnight. Single digit loss may not seem like much to some folks, but in one day? Yes. This is a bloodbath.

I have been desperately trying to get my house market ready to sell so I can flee Florida. I think I've lost the window and there is no way I am going to be able to relocate to Virginia before everything crashes. Call me Chicken Little, but I don't see a good end in sight here. No reason to believe the administrations mismanagement (stupidity and cruelty) is going to abate any time soon.

Pacifist Patriot

(24,953 posts)
25. I'm not sure there is much of a bottom. I have been expecting the worst since 4:00 a.m. on November 06, 2024.
Fri Apr 4, 2025, 02:33 PM
Apr 4

FloridaBlues

(4,513 posts)
40. The over built housing market here in Fl will stop. My house on market here past 35 days .
Fri Apr 4, 2025, 02:50 PM
Apr 4

I have to still hope for the best on selling. Don’t have an option right now.
Good luck to you!

mnhtnbb

(32,419 posts)
24. Losses verge on $10 Trillion since Inauguration
Fri Apr 4, 2025, 02:32 PM
Apr 4

of the orange a$$hole. Largest two day wipeout in history, says MarketWatch

https://www.marketwatch.com/

Ping Tung

(2,036 posts)
29. Not to worry. The financial prince of darkness knows how to handle bankruptcies........from experience.
Fri Apr 4, 2025, 02:40 PM
Apr 4

He'll conquer Canada, Greenland, Panama, Haiti, Venezuela, and Hollywood
and then sell them to his pal Putin for $1 trillion each

mikelewis

(4,477 posts)
31. But don't worry... when it comes back up 1200 points he will claim a 1200 point victory!!
Fri Apr 4, 2025, 02:41 PM
Apr 4

In 4 or 5 months... Smart... And Fox will pat him on the back.

flashman13

(1,131 posts)
36. Often the markets rally (at least gets less bad) at the end of the day.
Fri Apr 4, 2025, 02:45 PM
Apr 4

I expect it just to get worse today. Trump has undermined confidence and sown doubt. No reason to think we are approaching the bottom of this crash. Monday morning will tell the tale.

SunSeeker

(55,413 posts)
66. I got out of stocks in January and only bonds & cash in my 401k now. But we are still getting hurt.
Fri Apr 4, 2025, 03:37 PM
Apr 4

Sure, we are better off than folks holding Nvidia and Apple. But nobody is escaping untouched from the building shitstorm.

Xipe Totec

(44,302 posts)
51. I feel liberated from the burden of having all that money invested
Fri Apr 4, 2025, 03:12 PM
Apr 4

Now I understand what Trump is liberating; our wallets.

Wiz Imp

(4,645 posts)
63. As of this moment, the S&P 500 is down over 5%
Fri Apr 4, 2025, 03:31 PM
Apr 4

That's after yesterday's drop of 4.84%. So about a 10% drop in the span of 2 days.

OverBurn

(1,178 posts)
71. I was afraid to look at my accounts today, I did anyway. I've lost over 250K since the traitor took over.
Fri Apr 4, 2025, 03:45 PM
Apr 4

Trump is the biggest traitor in American history. He is bought, paid for and solely owned by Putin. Only way to explain all the stuff he's doing. He's destroying us from within.

mnhtnbb

(32,419 posts)
79. Ouch!
Fri Apr 4, 2025, 03:59 PM
Apr 4

I've been watching this last hour. I've lost--in two days-- the equivalent of what I receive in net Social Security benefits for a year. Two days.

obamanut2012

(28,391 posts)
82. My parents are freaking out -- this has wiped out a huge chunk of their retirement accounts
Fri Apr 4, 2025, 04:05 PM
Apr 4

They are almost 80.

I don't even want to know what is happening to my pension investments.

Wiz Imp

(4,645 posts)
87. S&P 500 closes down 5.97% (after a -4.84% drop yesterday)
Fri Apr 4, 2025, 04:15 PM
Apr 4

Point drop was -322.44 which is the 2nd largest single day point drop ever. Biggest drop was -324.89 on 3-16-20. Yesterday's drop is now the third biggest single day drop.

S&P 500 is down 14.0% since the beginning of 2025
S&P 500 is down 15.6% since Trump's inauguration.
S&P 500 is down 17.4% since its peak in mid February
S&P 500 is down 10.5% in just the past 2 days

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