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RockRaven
(17,118 posts)It would require them admitting they were wrong, and the evil liberals were right.
Never going to happen.
C_U_L8R
(47,025 posts)May be a while, these folks are pretty dense.
Doodley
(10,735 posts)Eliot Rosewater
(32,825 posts)Doodley
(10,735 posts)economy.
He promised tariffs.
Doodley
(10,735 posts)Tickle
(3,928 posts)😂 God help us. There's so much unknown here
Eliot Rosewater
(32,825 posts)
Doodley
(10,735 posts)Eliot Rosewater
(32,825 posts)You seethats how its played and of course, most of them will believe it.
Some will wake up, sure, but not most of them and none of this matters anymore. For another reason, is it called the save act is that the bill the Republicans will pass that will end voting by most Democrats because of how we vote and other reasons I havent read the whole thing and is that what its called?
BlueKota
(4,180 posts)but if he goes off script in a way the right wing mega donors don't approve of, who knows? Sadly there would still be Vance and Johnson.
bottomofthehill
(9,094 posts)They are afraid of Elons money
2naSalit
(96,353 posts)
Doodley
(10,735 posts)Mister Ed
(6,540 posts)In Trump's first term, he occasionally would promise that some great thing or another would be coming from his administration in two weeks. But "two weeks", like "tomorrow", never seemed to come.
patphil
(7,639 posts)Doodley
(10,735 posts)travelingthrulife
(2,003 posts)into poverty and homelessness in this country. Two months without an income can easily do that.
Doodley
(10,735 posts)wealthy Investors, business owners, retirees.
SocialDemocrat61
(4,017 posts)
Bernardo de La Paz
(54,445 posts)Bev54
(12,357 posts)Make me believe these idiot republicans will do anything that is right for the country.
Doodley
(10,735 posts)Blue Full Moon
(2,001 posts)EnergizedLib
(2,466 posts)Its highly unlikely.
sakabatou
(44,511 posts)Doodley
(10,735 posts)Silent Type
(8,925 posts)Doodley
(10,735 posts)miyazaki
(2,432 posts)
BannonsLiver
(19,034 posts)And it is going to be a catastrophe for them.
Uncle Joe
(61,339 posts)Thanks for the thread Doodley
Doodley
(10,735 posts)Uncle Joe
(61,339 posts)William769
(58,424 posts)Lets not go down this fantasy again. Hes not going to jail, hes not getting thrown out of the White House.
He said he could shoot someone on 5th Ave. Turned out to be true.
Doodley
(10,735 posts)population been so personally or financially affected as they will by these tariffs.
MrsCheaplaugh
(211 posts)Or blame it on immigrants, liberals, or lippy women who talk back.
Doodley
(10,735 posts)enormity of what he has done and how much everyone, including MAGA will suffer. Confidence in Trump among Independents must be heading for an all time low. Trump will be an electoral liability for the whole Republican Party.
Dream on...
lindysalsagal
(22,612 posts)Their districts are so gerrymandered they can never lose their seats.
Bernardo de La Paz
(54,445 posts).... until it hits a tipping point and suddenly there is an avalanche of Rs ready to impeach him. It will probably have to reach some tipping point among maga before the Rs will feel emboldened.
B.See
(5,105 posts)I wouldn't count on ANY of the MAGAS to have the guts to do so.
That'd involve FAR more courage, integrity, love and DUTY to one's own country than the whole stinking bunch of em could ever possess COLLECTIVELY.
EllieBC
(3,444 posts)MAGAts are armed and insane. They wont do anything to put their own necks on the line.
People keep forgetting that MAGAtry is a cult. Most people dont abandon their religions when bad things happen to them. Very often their faith becomes even stronger.
LudwigPastorius
(12,130 posts)to resign or face impeachment.
Doodley
(10,735 posts)GOP lawmakers openly dissing Trump and calling for him to go, growing pressure with mounting tariff-induced inflation and unemployment, opinion polls showing Trump's reputation among MAGAs in tatters, mass protests around the nation, continual bad news for the nation's economy with no end in sight, GOP lawmakers see a devasting mid-term election. Rather than a strongman, Trump would look pathetic. He would be seen as incapable of governing.
LudwigPastorius
(12,130 posts)Doodley
(10,735 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(54,445 posts)Doodley
(10,735 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(54,445 posts)My thought was that it will have to show up in the hard data in an obvious undeniable way at the same time as it shows up on main street and when people gather at the bowling alley and picking up kids at daycare. Like "I haven't seen Martha for a couple of weeks now, is she okay? Oh, she lost her job then."
Sentiment is way down as revealed by surveys and the stock market (a fast-reacting barometer of future expectations). But a tick up in unemployment from 4.1 to 4.2 might be noise or it might be the toe into the hard data.
Doodley
(10,735 posts)A rise in inflation will probably be noticed very quickly and it will get worse. Fear is driving the stock market, fear that we now face a downturn. People will be fearful, even MAGAs. I think the fear will be immediate, even for many MAGAs. MAGAs are immune to or favor a lot of Trump crap, like mass deportations and discrimination, but never has Trump or any president done something on this scale that will hit them where is hurts them personally. I believe that this is literally a lifetime event in terms of the impact on people's lives and finances and in how people the world over view a president. I don't see how Trump can survive this.
InAbLuEsTaTe
(25,057 posts)SSJVegeta
(274 posts)Never.
Meowmee
(8,471 posts)The senate just voted to stop tariffs against Canada I think? But the house will block a vote on it is my guess. Why does the executive have this power? Tariffs should have to be voted on, not declared by the executive. Someone who crashed the stock market this many times already would be gone in other major western countries. UK prime minister Truss was gone after 49 days when this happened, the UK is a unitary parliamentary democracy.
Doodley
(10,735 posts)Meowmee
(8,471 posts)The highest office in the country with way too much power... and even before he was a convicted felon he was inciting violence in his first campaign and zero was done!
niyad
(123,140 posts)BlueTsunami2018
(4,285 posts)I dont know why we keep asking these kind of questions.
Theyre NEVER going to remove him, censure him or attempt to stop him in any way. Not ever.
Unless
.the cult turns on him which is also never going to happen.
Were stuck with this shitshow and everything that comes with it.
Doodley
(10,735 posts)flicked a switch and destroyed that. The economy is going to meltdown. There is no good news that will come from this, This isn't a story that will last a week and we move on. Things can only get worse from here as the affect of tariffs and destroying international partnerships pile up. This is people's livelihoods, their savings, their jobs, their ability to feed their family. Trump will lose his authority because too many will realize he's fucked them. GOP will be decimated in the midterms unless Trump goes.
BlueTsunami2018
(4,285 posts)That cult is rock solid. I work with a bunch of Trumpers and they do not care about any of this. They just parrot the company line.
This is Bidens fault.
A Presidents policies dont really take effect until two years in.
We were due for a correction.
Everything is going to be so much better than it was by December.
He inherited a disaster.
And blah, blah, blah.
They could be standing there wearing a barrel and still think its all good.
bucolic_frolic
(49,691 posts)Until then, nada, zilch, goose egg.
Takket
(22,932 posts)OLDMDDEM
(2,429 posts)Omnipresent
(6,817 posts)Instead, they might assassinate him and blame Democrats for doing it.
Jrsygrl96
(241 posts)Cultists die for their leader.
ILikePie92
(39 posts)Little piggies grow wings and fly
kacekwl
(8,185 posts)dragging his ass out and hanging him in the street it's the only other way.
Autumn
(47,665 posts)uponit7771
(92,701 posts)Oopsie Daisy
(5,587 posts)LuckyCharms
(19,914 posts)Which it quite possibly will.
There will be a few up days over the next weeks most likely, but that will just be a dead cat bounce.
The trend is down, and the downtrend will continue when Trump refuses to back off on this insane tariff plan.
Right now, the downturn is due to the sheer shock and uncertainty of his plan.
The decline will continue in the intermediate term due to the actual fallout of the tariffs.
I give Trump no longer than another year.
Happy Hoosier
(8,870 posts)WE must rely on their repudiation at the polls... and that our party's leadership recognizes that "normal" is gone for now.
dem4decades
(12,581 posts)Torchlight
(4,507 posts)But my guess won't change the taste of mustard.
Blues Heron
(6,730 posts)this lunacy is not sustainable. Now that he is affecting white peoples money, he will be rapidly shown the door.
DFW
(57,702 posts)Fox noise will spin it into pretzels and the Trumpanzees will just recite the Republican Golden Rule: If youre rich, you deserve it. If youre poor, you deserve it.
The closest the public will ever hear of a serious Republican effort to remove him will be like what happened to Scalia. Trump will be invited to some Republican retreat where no one gets in without thorough vetting, and he experiences a medical emergency which he doesnt survive. He gets a heros funeral while the Congressional Republicans breathe a collective sigh of relief. Vance gets told to play along, or risk early detection of heretofore undetected serious arteriosclerosis.
If Republicans were capable of admitting they were wrong, we wouldn't have seen their Presidential candidates, since the resignation of the odious Richard Nixon, slide inexorably downward ever since. In 1980, for example, they might have supported John Anderson instead of horoscope/senility boy Ronald Reagan. Bush Sr. at least seemed to know what he was doing, and had a notable record in public service before being tractor-beamed into Reagan's orbit. But even he couldn't overcome the damage done by Reagan's idiotic trickle-down barf-bag economic plan. George W. Bush is the most disastrous nepo baby story in the history of the Presidency. And the less said about Trump, the better.
The Republicans will never remove him from office. It may take a 2nd Amendment solution to do that.
mucholderthandirt
(1,430 posts)Or even been processed yet. Stocks need to drop some more, SS checks stop showing up. Maybe a war in Panama is threatened.
Then Trump will be gone, Vance will be in, and our lord and masters at Project 2025 will begin the real work of stealing America blind, it will just have a nicer, saner face to it.
Either that, or the military will step in, we'll have a nice coup with generals and crap telling us what to do, the militias will shoot their wad and in five or ten years, we might begin to earn back our place in the world.
Or the EU decides to just nuke us, and it's all over but the radioactive fire.