Was speaking to a lady in a swing state with a huge social circle

[SheltieLover]

Asked if she's voting for Kamala and she said... "Well, you know, I want to know her beyond the fluff interviews they have given with her. The media treats her like a woman. I want to see what she is really made of."

My response was "Well, we have a convicted rapist and 34-count convicted felon on one side and a very highly respected prosecutor, AG, VP, and a woman who wants to protect women's reproductive freedom. What more do you need to know?"

Her answer was that she hates rump, but she wants to know more about Kamala on a personal level.

I then asked her if she has heard of Project 2025. She has. I offered to send her a link so that she can read the whole thing (she looked like she was going to throw up - lol), but she declined, repeating again that she wants to know what Kamala is like as a person, rather than a politician.

I suggested she watch her rallies, but the response was the same. Not sure what this woman is looking for, but she might well be able to sway a LOT of votes our way if I can find the right type of interview or information.

I sent her the link to Kamala's policy website and I trust she is reading it.

I hav no idea what type of information / interview this woman is looking for but if anyone knows, it would be our beloved community here. (It's very easy for me to discern the type of person someone is just by looking at them, so I don't know what she is after. My instant revulsion when first viewing weirdo, then beardo are perfect examples. They're creepy.)

Any ideas of interviews she has given or information about Kamala that is more "personal" than political?

TYIA!

[Dennis Donovan]

1. Excellent job!

[SheltieLover]

10. TY!

Trying to do what I'm able to!

[NewHendoLib]

2. The person is stealth maga

Not worth a second of your time

[PCIntern]

4. Correct...

It’s all bullshit coming out of her mouth.

[Lovie777]

6. Pretty much.....................

thank you SheltieLover for helping her to see the truth. It's up her now.

[yourout]

9. Yep. Trump voter to embarrassed to admit it.

[SheltieLover]

11. Hi NHL

Could be. Thanks for weighing in.

How are you doing up there in the hills?

[NewHendoLib]

29. Hi to you! Well...

We're fine - with electricity, we are back to normal, but it doesn't feel like it - the extreme damage is not far from us - every short drive shows another small tragedy. My wife and I are kind of in shock a bit.

The MAGA spread lies and distortions about FEMA aid and Democrats is making us boil. What absolute shits of human beings.

[SheltieLover]

64. Glad to hear you & Mrs. are ok & have utilities.

I'm in shock as well. I lived in Asheville for about 4 yrs. Just heartbreaking.

[lindysalsagal]

47. Racist.

[Klarkashton]

3. Harris has been the VP for 4 years. All the info is there.

You are getting gaslighted by some pain in the ass.

[SheltieLover]

12. But this woman works unbelieveable hours.

Could be. I'm not disputing what you're saying, but she seemed to sincerely want to know.

[Jack Valentino]

58. Gaslighted, maybe.... However, Vice President Harris was ignored by the media

even MORE than most other Vice Presidents over that four years.... I can only presume because she is a woman, and AA on top of that...



Hell, even I was unsure about the proper pronunciation of her name before this campaign started,
because so few talked about her in the news, and some of them were probably saying it wrong...


However, for god's sake, she ought to know enough about TRUMP by now to make this decision easy.
As the saying now goes, when the undecided voter is offered a choice
between chicken and a bowl of raw sewage, why do they ask
'how is the chicken cooked?'

[brush]

5. That woman sounds full of it, making excuses. All she had to do was watch the debate with the convict.

What is with 'on a personal basis', like she expects to get invited to lunch with the VP or some such BS?

[SheltieLover]

14. No, I don't think she expects a luncheon invite. LOL

I'm not sure exactly what she meant.

It's hard for me to wrap my head around indecision. I was reared to be a strong Democrat, so even the thought of voting for any R is nauseating, but this time... WOW!

Yet, she seemed to sincerely want to know more about Kamala.

Thanks for weighing in.

[brush]

21. I wasn't serious about the lunch invite thing, just trying to show how flakey the woman is.

Don't waste your time with her. Like I said, she's full of it.

[SheltieLover]

23. Could well be.

Thanks for weighing in.

[biophile]

7. She's a Drumpf supporter but is ashamed to admit it

Or maybe she really doesn’t like drumpf but is a hard core Republican and will just never vote for a Democratic candidate.
Because, really?

[SheltieLover]

15. Could be

But she sincerely wanted to know more about Kamala as "the person," vs "the politician."

Thanks for weighing in.

[NoRethugFriends]

52. No. She just said she wanted to know more.

Her way of deflecting

[biophile]

61. I should have put a question mark behind my title sentence

I didn’t mean to make it so declarative and meant it more as a strong supposition. Anyway I do hope she finds the answer to her hesitation. Thank you for being open enough to provide information for her.

[Vthestate]

8. is she a troll?

Honesty is a rare thing.

[SheltieLover]

16. No. This is a woman I know.

Sort of. Not close with her, but she seemed sincere.

The face she made when I mentioned rump was priceless. And she stated she doesn't like him at all, but wants to vote FOR something, not just against rump. (The latter is enough for me. LOL)

Thanks for weighing in.

[Aristus]

13. She's voting for Trump, but is too feckless and cowardly to say so.

Sorry you wasted your time on that bunghole...

[SheltieLover]

18. I honestly don't think so

The face she made when I mentioned rump as an alternative, followed by saying "I really don't like him, Yuck. But I want to vote FOR something, not just against him."

Thanks for weighing in.

[Aristus]

20. I'm glad you don't think so.

But she gave you so many "Yes, but; yes, but; yes, but" that all I could think of was calculated insincerity.

[SheltieLover]

22. Thanks for weighing in

I'll take your comment under advisement.

[riversedge]

32. Maybe she will settle her soul and just write someone in.

[wnylib]

17. I dunno. If she hates Trump and knows what he is,

then WTH is her problem? Does she really think that there is something about Harris that might be even worse than a felon, rapist, insurrectionist?

I don't get these people who know what scum Trump is but say that they still need to know Harris better. Seems to me that the contrast between the candidates is so strong that the ones who say they don't really know Harris are just saying that as an excuse to vote for Trump. Or, they are Trumpists through and through and are trying to sow seeds of doubt about Harris to people who support Harris/Walz.

I'd probably have said to her, "Well you've got two choices, Trump the criminal who wants to be dictator and Harris, the prosecutor, Senator, and VP. Would you really choose the criminal, dictator wannabe?"

If she answered that she might choose a 3rd party candidate, or just not vote, I'd tell her that not voting, or choosing 3rd party would be throwing the election in Trump's favor.

This woman could find out Harris' background easily enough by looking her up on Wikipedia or Googling her name along with the word "biography."

[SheltieLover]

19. All very true, Wynlib!

Thank you for weighing in.

I pretty much told her just that: that not voting or voting for a 3rd party is THE SAME as voting for weirdo and beardo.

Sigh...

[wnylib]

24. I edited my post after you read it to add that

I suspect that people who say they need to know more about Harris are probably Trumpists trying to sow doubt among Harris/Walz supporters. I don't buy the idea that they need to know Harris before deciding whom to vote for. The contrast between the candidates is so great that it's a no brainer decision for Harris unless they are Trumpists.

[SheltieLover]

27. It's a no-brainer to me for sure!

I roll with my gut feelings and nearly vomited the first time I saw tfg on tv years ago. Sickening. Same with beardo, bannon, ghouliani, et al.

Thanks for weighing in.

[wnylib]

30. Same here. I've always found Trump repulsive

long before he got into politics.

[jimfields33]

55. I think the 60 minutes interview may help a lot of voters still figuring it all out.

[anamnua]

25. Sounds to me

as if she is just looking for an excuse not to vote for her.

[JustAnotherGen]

26. She's an attention seeker

[Phoenix61]

28. She's a step mom. Her husband's ex-wife has said

wonderful things about her.

“Just a few of Harris's many hobbies growing up, according to her Vogue profile: singing in an Oakland, Calif. church choir, joining civil rights marches, mastering Indian cooking, cleaning test tubes in her mother's (a cancer researcher's) lab and knitting while watching cartoons (the only way she was permitted to watch TV). “I have no idea how many blankets Kamala must have crocheted,” Harris's sister, Maya, told Vogue. “She was the mad crocheter.””

“Why does Harris list "Momala" on her Twitter bio? It's what her two stepchildren, the kids of her husband, attorney Doug Emhoff, call her because, as she wrote in her book, The Truths We Hold: An American Journey, they weren't keen on the title of "stepmom."”

https://www.vogue.com/article/2020-women-candidates-quirky-hobbies-intellect-too

“In Montreal, a 13-year-old Harris and her younger sister, Maya, led a successful demonstration in front of their apartment building in protest of a policy that banned children from playing on the lawn.”
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/08/11/kamala-harris-vp-background-bio-biden-running-mate-2020-393885

“13. She likes to cook. Ms. Harris loves food. She has ribbed her running mate, Gov. Tim Walz of Minnesota, about his “white guy tacos,” shared her turkey cooking tips and said that she liked to read recipes to unwind. In 2019 Ms. Harris posted a series of cooking videos to YouTube, including one with the actor Mindy Kaling that has been watched more than six million times. “Senator Harris, I say this with respect, you’re kind of a show-off,” Ms. Kaling quipped. “Right?” Ms. Harris replied.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/22/us/elections/kamala-harris-facts.html

Just a few I could find. Hope this helps.

[SheltieLover]

31. Thank you so much!

THis is the type of info I think that woman is looking for! I very much appreciate you sharing all of this!

[riversedge]

35. I read this awhile ago but have forgotten it already. It is certainly worth passing on. Thanks.

[tinrobot]

33. Send her a link to Kamala's cooking videos

Here's one:

Lots more in her channel

[SheltieLover]

38. Great idea!

TY so much!!!

[B.See]

34. I would opine that because you two are

acquaintances that you're inclined to give her the benefit of the doubt, and in turn, she was trying not to show that her mind had already been made up.

In short, yes, cordial and genuinely receptive though she may have seemed to be, you were wasting your time.

What she was looking for was an excuse not to vote for Harris.

[ananda]

36. I don't see how she could not already know what Kamala is all about...

both on personal and a professional level.

When you offered information, she just kept asking the question.

And yet, it's been all over the news for months now.

Your kindheartedness and persistence are admirable, but it
looks like a bottomless well of indecision on her part.

[Tesha]

37. Would she sit with you while you read this together?

https://kamalaharris.com/meet-kamala-harris/

Or any of the ‘get to know Kamala’ pages where they offer personal info.

If you did this together you could see where she’s not believing something.
Mention the people who are crossing the aisle, those that know them both.

[SheltieLover]

39. I'm nowhere near her geographically

TYVM for sharing the link! Most helpful!

I will share it with her and what she does with it will be up to her.

[kerry-is-my-prez]

40. I talked a neighbor who has never voted for a Dem into voting for Harris.

So it’s worth a try with anyone.

[SheltieLover]

43. Absolutely!

I've taken the few helpful websites and typed info, put it into a document and will email to her in hopes she will be able to see that Kamala is a real person, unlike weirdo and beardo!

TY!

Great job turning an R!

[Freethinker65]

41. She is like my husband? Will not be voting Trump, but has irrational fear of Harris, as he did Hillary Clinton.

I did get him to vote for Biden over Trump instead of leaving it blank or voting third party (he was one of the idiots, though not in a swing state, that voted for Johnson instead of Hillary or Trump and honestly had no idea who Johnson even was).

Since we live in a deep Blue State it will not matter.

We had a few friends stay with us that also tried to convince him subtly to vote for Harris, but so far no luck.

[SheltieLover]

44. Gawd...

I'm sorry you hav to put up with that.

Here's to trying!

[Think. Again.]

42. How is this a legitimate question?

Kamala Harris has been a highly public official her entire career.

[SheltieLover]

45. I can't understand it either.

I only posted to get help to find something to send to her trying to convince her. If she lived in a solid Blue state, frankly, I wouldn't bother.

[awesomerwb1]

46. Much respect to you for trying

We all need to try to bring voters into the light.

However, in my humble opinion, it sounds like she's already made up her mind (too embarrassed to admit her love for cheeto?) and nothing Kamala does or says will convince her to vote for her.

[SheltieLover]

49. I don't think so.

I wish I could describe the look on her face when I mentioned rump as the other (non-viable!) "option."

As my dad would've said, she looked like she was smelling shit on her upper lip. LOL

I am grateful to the few folks here who provided links, one to an article, one to Kamala's cooking show, and another to a "get to know Kamala" from her website. I hadn't thought of any of these because there was never a question in my mind. LOL

Thanks for weighing in!

[questionseverything]

48. She's a Christian woman who wants to protect grandparents social security

And your grandson’s hot lunch program

Both of which, the repubs would take away

[SheltieLover]

50. Great points I'd already shared.

She just kept saying she doesn't just want to vote against the turd, she wants reasons to vote FOR Harris.

Thanks for weighing in!

[proud patriot]

51. perhaps she needs to see those videos of her cooking

and hanging out with podcasters .

[SheltieLover]

53. Someone else suggested this too & I think this is a great idea!

Thank you for weighing in & thanks to those who offered ideas!

[proud patriot]

67. you bet

[pat_k]

54. I suspect that almost anything you pass along. . .

. . . will be perceived through a lens of "just more fluff."

It is a right wing talking point being hammered on FOX and by people like Victoria Churchill, the so-called "swing-state reporter" at NY Post.

If she is actually interested in something from an object source:

The Choice 2024: Harris vs. Trump
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/documentary/the-choice-2024-harris-vs-trump/

[SheltieLover]

68. Tyvm!

Much appreciated.

[3catwoman3]

56. She can vote FOR the first woman POTUS!

It’s not hard to find information these days.

Let us know if you try any of the ideas from this thread.

[elleng]

57. Sounds like baloney going on.

THANKS for your efforts.

[malaise]

59. Creep your

The answer to all of them is there is no one in the history of the United States who is a worse option than the CONvicted felon.
Creepy is kind.

[bigtree]

60. inform her that NONE of what she expects Kamala Harris to do will be accomplished by her opponent.

...just the opposite.

Tell her that vote of hers which either supports the candidate against Trump, or votes for him is HER own responsibility, not Kamala Harris'.

[SheltieLover]

63. All very true!

Thx for weighing in!

[epreic01]

62. It's worth a try

Tear Jerker:
https://m.

&pp=ygUmS2FtYWxhIGludGVydmlldyBXb3JzdCBEYXkgb2YgaGVyIGxpZmU%3D]
Turkey Recipe:
https://m.

&pp=ygUUa2FtYWxhIHR1cmtleSByZWNpcGU%3D
I’ve had it: Podcast From Before Biden Dropped out:
]https://m.

&pp=ygUZSXZlIGhhZCBpdCBwb2RjYXN0IGthbWFsYQ%3D%3D
I’ve had it: Podcast Andy Beshear start at 19:30 into podcast
]https://m.

&pp=ygUgaSd2ZSBoYWQgaXQgcG9kY2FzdCBhbmR5IGJlc2hlYXI%3D

I like to also tell people. She has 34 years of experience serving the public. And I may say this to someone, you know you may not feel like you know her very well yet, but there’s some things we do know. We know that when she’s on TV you will be able to sit your kids/grandkids down to watch her speak and not worry about what she’ll say. You also know, that if a disaster happens in your hometown, she won’t have her staff look up to see how your town voted before deciding if she’s going ti help.
Last. My first dog was a Sheltie and she was a great dog!

[SheltieLover]

66. TY so much!

I really appreciate you taking the time & making the effort to provide these excellent links & to write out your feelings.

Great point about being assured Kamala will always present professionally & never say things kids should never hear!

[Vinca]

65. The "undecided" voters seem to be people who expect Kamala to knock on their door, sit down

in their living room and share tea and cookies for a couple of hours of "get to know you" time.