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Shell_Seas

(3,426 posts)
Sat Oct 5, 2024, 05:38 PM 3 hrs ago

JD Vance Lied About The Flow Of The Iron River

Texas is a top source of firearms smuggled into Mexico. Yet, this week JD Vance claimed firearms were being smuggled from Mexico.

https://www.lonestarleft.com/p/jd-vance-lied-about-the-flow-of-the



During this week’s VP debate between JD Vance and Tim Walz, Vance lied about many things. He spoke really fast, and he lied a lot. Presumably, that’s just who he is. While there have been plenty of fact-checks this week, there’s one topic we must drill down on and know the facts about because this topic has been one of the biggest drivers of mass migration over the years, and his like wasn’t only stupid. It was done with malice.

That’s right, we’re talking about the Iron River.

Vance’s exact words: “Thanks to Kamala Harris’ open border, we’ve seen a massive influx in the number of illegal guns run by the Mexican drug cartel. So, that number then, the amount of illegal guns in our country, is higher today than it was three and a half years ago.”

Only a moron from Ohio, which is nowhere near a border, who peddles lies would come up with such a tall tale. JD Vance was referring to the Iron River, and it’s essential in the immigration discussion that we all know that it flows from North to South.

What is the Iron River?

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JD Vance Lied About The Flow Of The Iron River (Original Post) Shell_Seas 3 hrs ago OP
Take pity: Vance must be dyslexic. ;-) Ilsa 3 hrs ago #1
Smuggled guns would be but a drop in the ocean Ilsa 3 hrs ago #2
The point is they aren't coming into the US. They are leaving the US for Mexico. Ms. Toad 3 hrs ago #6
Buy ammo in Texas, VGNonly 3 hrs ago #3
And people actually listen to this POS? I hope not, for when I see him on TV, I almost throw up and change the SWBTATTReg 3 hrs ago #4
I wondered when we'd see something about that whopper. Ms. Toad 3 hrs ago #5
Wait until The Bopper 1 hr ago #7

Ilsa

(62,130 posts)
2. Smuggled guns would be but a drop in the ocean
Sat Oct 5, 2024, 05:46 PM
3 hrs ago

compared to what is already here. Why smuggle when you can get them at pawn shops?

Ms. Toad

(35,229 posts)
6. The point is they aren't coming into the US. They are leaving the US for Mexico.
Sat Oct 5, 2024, 05:59 PM
3 hrs ago

The exact opposite of Vance's allegations.

SWBTATTReg

(23,741 posts)
4. And people actually listen to this POS? I hope not, for when I see him on TV, I almost throw up and change the
Sat Oct 5, 2024, 05:55 PM
3 hrs ago

channel. He could never have or say anything that I would be even remotely interested in.

Ms. Toad

(35,229 posts)
5. I wondered when we'd see something about that whopper.
Sat Oct 5, 2024, 05:58 PM
3 hrs ago

When he said it in the debate, it was the first time I'd heard it. So I immediately fact-checked it - and discovered in one quick search that we send firearms to Mexico, they don't send them to us.

The Bopper

(247 posts)
7. Wait until
Sat Oct 5, 2024, 08:05 PM
1 hr ago

The Supreme Court case on “ghost guns” without serial numbers it will be impossible to “prove” Vance is wrong.

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