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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI guess no one is coming to Missouri.
I think we have just been written off.
Walleye
(34,226 posts)Response to Walleye (Reply #1)
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bucolic_frolic
(46,123 posts)Maybe a test of not stimulating the opposition. Stealth election.
mucifer
(24,596 posts)madaboutharry
(41,115 posts)538 (I know) has Harris 12 points behind. I am sure the campaign's own internal polling is most likely similar.
samnsara
(18,163 posts)...tim (briefly)
leftyladyfrommo
(19,317 posts)not seen a single sign except for 1 Hawley sign. Trump has lost a bunch of voters.
lastlib
(24,493 posts)...outside of KC metro/hinterlands. Precious few if any Harris signs, a couple of Kunce signs.
Seen one trump sign and one Harris sign in my suburb of KC.
displacedvermoter
(2,551 posts)I was led to believe he had a chance against Hawley, who is a traitorous coward.
Keep up the fight, I know it must be discouraging. Blessed to live where I do.
DFW
(56,062 posts)Keeping in mind what is said of the Pennsylvania electoral map, Missouri seems to consist of KC in the West, STL in the east, and the CSA in between.
displacedvermoter
(2,551 posts)Does he have a chance? They should be running that video of Hawley escaping from his own ilk on January 6th day in and day out!
I like to believe that Hawley's presidential ambitions are shat away, at least.
DFW
(56,062 posts)I briefly immortalized Hawley panic run in one of videos a while back. See if you can spot it!
Gore1FL
(21,660 posts)Springfield is probably the worst, though.
Kid Berwyn
(17,361 posts)Which really is a shame, as the more people learn about Harris and Walz, the more people like them.
Their coattails may be enough to dump fist-pumping traitor Josh Hawley.
JI7
(90,173 posts)Do they not have access to the internet, television and other things?
Nimble_Idea
(2,309 posts)joking aside, I hear people still live there. They come to the capital every now and then.
Rebl2
(14,381 posts)It wrong. Its Misery.
cadoman
(795 posts)...and is soundly winning in polls that aren't fraudulent.
Visits to states shouldn't be evaluated in isolation. They are investments in the future. Imagine how many young women would be going to a rally for the first female President, and remember that for the rest of their lives as lifelong Democrats?
betsuni
(27,172 posts)The U.S. is a very large country. I don't get this at all.
former9thward
(33,207 posts)They regretted it the day after the election.
H2O Man
(74,942 posts)tritsofme
(18,094 posts)former9thward
(33,207 posts)I would not waste any money in Missouri. But the poster I replied to seemed to think personal visits should not mean anything. They do.
LexVegas
(6,426 posts)Takket
(22,389 posts)Xavier Breath
(4,692 posts)snowybirdie
(5,522 posts)when Bill Clinton ran, he promised to go to all 50 states while campaigning. He made it and beat the incumbent. Wish it was like that now. But with today's realities and focus on the Electoral college, I understand.
jcgoldie
(11,888 posts)thanks to you 90% of our votes are insignificant.
quaint
(3,357 posts)Happy the State of California is that Blue.
Retrograde
(10,524 posts)are the big races around here. I've seen one Harris/Walz bumper sticker, a few leftover Biden/Harris signs, but otherwise all the yard signs are for local elections. Besides president, we're also have an election to fill Feinstein's senate seat, and the local Congressional seat (the incumbent is retiring after 30 some years) - one of the candidates for the latter is bombarding cable channels with ads, but I've heard nary a peep from Schif or his opponent, Whatshisname.
This area gets high turnout for elections and mostly votes Democratic, but it would be nice to see some big ticket candidates without having to pay upwards of $500 for the privilege.
quaint
(3,357 posts)Lots of American flags in my community flying all night without a light.
The only canvasser to my house was for Joe Kerr, who is a great D candidate with no chance of winning.
I cannot give my opinion of Adam Schiff on this board, and I hope Katie Porter is our next governor.
Ferrets are Cool
(21,469 posts)Go Shamari FIgures!!!!!!
milestogo
(17,109 posts)Its like there are only 5-6 states that matter in the end.
The electoral college is bullshit.
LymphocyteLover
(6,345 posts)LymphocyteLover
(6,345 posts)pstokely
(10,616 posts)nt
LymphocyteLover
(6,345 posts)pstokely
(10,616 posts)but maybe the the GOV and Senate races are
onetexan
(13,662 posts)and given the criticality of the swing states it's understandable they are not going to invest in a state that is reliably red.
Croney
(4,849 posts)to visit family. I will notice yard signs while I'm there. If my Rethug relative's house has a piece of trash in the yard, it might be the victim of a midnight accident.
Jeebo
(2,188 posts)I'm seeing Harris/Walz, Lucas Kunce, Crystal Quade (governor) signs all over the place. Almost no yard signs or bumper stickers for the orange con man. But then, Columbia is a blue oasis in a red desert. Still, I think Kunce has a good chance. Harris and Quade, alas, probably not so much. I'm seeing Lucas Kunce TV ads all the time and none for Quade. I wonder if that has something to do with Kunce having a much better chance? And I keep wondering, why isn't Quade running ads on TV?
The Missouri at Texas A&M football game is about to start, so I'm going to leave the computer now and plant myself in front of the 50-inch TV ...
-- Ron
Croney
(4,849 posts)Ms. Toad
(35,229 posts)My daughter is excited about politics for the first time ever. She has always voted, since we drilled into her how important it is - usually based on a sample ballot I've filed it for her. Since the importance has felt more theoretical than real to her.
But she is excited this year - having me listen to a podcast by a young man who specializes in demolishing the MAGA crowd, sending me memes and videos, and even telling me that Harris missed her recent EOQ goals for funding.
Shortly after the Harris , she asked if I thought Harris would visit Ohio, since we should go to a rally. Is love to support her enthusiasm by taking her to a rally.
Metaphorical
(2,064 posts)1. Time. Highly abbreviated campaign, by May most candidates have sewn up the primaries and can pivot to the general. Kamala didn't have that luxury. For all intents and purposes her campaign started in August.
2. Money. Thanks to Citizens United, these races have become extremely expensive, so everything becomes a cost/benefit analysis.
3. Commitments. Kamala Harris is Vice President, Tim Walz is a governor. These responsibilities don't go away simply because you are campaigning.
I do have to wonder though if, as they start leveraging more star power whether people like the Obamas or the Clintons could go to Alabama or Missouri, if only as a sign that Kamala is on the offensive (I consider Florida a target as well). The one big advantage that Harris has is that she is amassing an army of proxies, something that Trump is finding harder and harder to achieve (he's stiffed most of them).
doc03
(36,340 posts)here now. I see few campaign ads for Sharrod Brown. It's Marino ads sometimes back to back every break on TV. Is Brown that far ahead or have we just threw in the towel? Sixty miles away in Pittsburgh there are Harris/Walz rallies everyday.
Diamond_Dog
(34,024 posts)I mute the TV or change the channel during Moron-o ads. The one where the nice white lady complains that the attacks on Moron-os character are disgraceful just pushes my buttons.
JI7
(90,173 posts)Georgia and Arizona didn't always get the attention they are getting now .
And then there is Florida.
UpInArms
(51,639 posts)just a quick story for you
. our local dems have been inundated with sign requests
and our coffers (notoriously always empty) have been receiving donations from folks we didnt even know existed have been sending in money
we are running more ads weekly and will be doing a flyer insert that will have pretty good coverage
one side about all of our candidates (from Kamala on down to the county level) and the other side, explaining about project 2025.
Do not give up hope
we are in this to win.
Ocelot II
(119,524 posts)they probably would have. But since electorally speaking the US consists of only seven states, they are stuck with having to concentrate the campaign there. Maybe the Electoral College seemed like a good idea when there were just a few states and just a few people (and even fewer voters), but it's sure a crap deal now. They aren't coming to Minnesota either.
Scrivener7
(52,201 posts)that they come to your home town and home state, even though there is very little chance they will win there?
Because they can't win this without being strategic.
And hey, they haven't come to my blue area either. For the same reason.
karynnj
(59,828 posts)Remember all the criticism HRC got after Trump won because at the end of the race she spent time in states like Arizona rather than doubling down on securing the blue wall. In fact, she DID spend a lot of time in PA which she lost.
With Harris, there was no primary election, which is usually the time for visits to non swing states. I would love to see a Harris rally, but it would be crazy if she waisted time in Vermont, where she easily wins.
krawhitham
(4,801 posts)pstokely
(10,616 posts)Last edited Sat Oct 5, 2024, 04:57 PM - Edit history (1)
they haven't even been that many polls for the GOV and Senate races
Skittles
(157,323 posts)pstokely
(10,616 posts)I think Kunce's chances are better than the beltway insiders think, I haven't seen any ads for Kehoe or Quade
BWdem4life
(2,209 posts)Gore1FL
(21,660 posts)It was a bad long-term move.
WhiteTara
(30,035 posts)ananda
(30,138 posts)I kinda thought we had enough for a fifty-state attack,
but maybe not.