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LetMyPeopleVote

(152,718 posts)
Thu Oct 3, 2024, 01:03 PM Thursday

Judge Chutkan - The claims of TFG's attorneys are "unbefitting of experienced defense counsel"

Most of TFG's briefs opposing the release of the Special Counsel filing were claims that this was a partisan exercise and the facts in the filing should not be released so close to the election. In her opinion releasing the Special Counsel brief, Judge Chutkan called out TFG's counsel for advancing political rhetoric that has no basis in law. The best is when Judge Chutkan noted that TFG's claims are “unbefitting of experienced defense counsel



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Judge Chutkan - The claims of TFG's attorneys are "unbefitting of experienced defense counsel" (Original Post) LetMyPeopleVote Thursday OP
They Are Insane TZ617 Thursday #1
Geat analogy. n/t iluvtennis Thursday #14
That's because that's what Pendejo45 wanted them to do ... aggiesal Thursday #2
Yup, the lawyers are hired guns bucolic_frolic Thursday #3
Exactly. They must enjoy being jerked around by a psychopath littlemissmartypants Thursday #4
The law has been getting twisted into elaborate pretzels for Trumpsky's benefit. Harker Thursday #5
That's all he can get or that are willing to,p risk their entire career for an orange nobody PortTack Thursday #6
If he wouldnt have been a crook and criminal in the first place, the info wouldnt have been released !!!!!! Trueblue1968 Thursday #7
Ouch. These guys are trying to get disbarred like Rudy. yellowcanine Thursday #8
I sure hope this means sanctions may well follow, if they write one more stupid brief. Bev54 Thursday #9
What's the threshold for that to happen? Otherwise these shenanigans can seemingly go on forever. TheRickles Thursday #11
I think Chutkan has come to the end of her rope, my guess it is coming if they don't stop. Bev54 Thursday #12
And if she sanctions the lawyers, can't they just appeal it on up the chain? Ad infinitum.... TheRickles Thursday #13
IDK on sanctions, what remedies they have Bev54 Thursday #18
She has correctly identified ScratchCat Thursday #10
Thank you Judge. There is hope. twodogsbarking Thursday #15
BEST PART: "as Trump did not seek a stay, her decision then resulted in the public filing of the government's brief." thesquanderer Thursday #16
Trump claims new Jack Smith filing is election interference. Here's how it became public. LetMyPeopleVote Thursday #17
Well, ouch. LOL That's gotta burn. Somebody call the fire department, cause someone is hot tonight!. mucholderthandirt Thursday #19

TZ617

(15 posts)
1. They Are Insane
Thu Oct 3, 2024, 02:21 PM
Thursday

Her postponing this would be equal to a judge postponing the release of information regarding a person charged with the murder of their spouse because they were planning on getting married again and the evidence might prejudice the next potential spouse. The purpose of the legal system should be to protect others from being victimized, just as much as punishment for the guilty.

aggiesal

(9,351 posts)
2. That's because that's what Pendejo45 wanted them to do ...
Thu Oct 3, 2024, 02:21 PM
Thursday

They probably advised him that his strategy would not work.
I'm not trying to give his counsel any cover.
They made their bed, they need to sleep in it.

littlemissmartypants

(24,126 posts)
4. Exactly. They must enjoy being jerked around by a psychopath
Thu Oct 3, 2024, 02:36 PM
Thursday

Or they have been promised cabinet positions. Otherwise, why not just quit?

Harker

(14,651 posts)
5. The law has been getting twisted into elaborate pretzels for Trumpsky's benefit.
Thu Oct 3, 2024, 02:37 PM
Thursday

I'm enthusiastically grateful for Judge Chutkan.

She's truly heroic in adhering to the law.

Bev54

(11,624 posts)
12. I think Chutkan has come to the end of her rope, my guess it is coming if they don't stop.
Thu Oct 3, 2024, 03:06 PM
Thursday

She is not shy.

ScratchCat

(2,301 posts)
10. She has correctly identified
Thu Oct 3, 2024, 02:57 PM
Thursday

That the bulk of these filings and motions are little more than press releases to Trump's fan club and for right wing media sound bites rather than being actual legal arguments meant to persuade the judge of their client's position.

It's old, and everyone including the Judge is tired of it.

thesquanderer

(12,263 posts)
16. BEST PART: "as Trump did not seek a stay, her decision then resulted in the public filing of the government's brief."
Thu Oct 3, 2024, 04:00 PM
Thursday

It sounds like possibly the only reason this was released to the public is that TFG's lawyers neglected to ask her to prevent it.

Once again, screwed by incompetent legal counsel. You get what you pay for.

LetMyPeopleVote

(152,718 posts)
17. Trump claims new Jack Smith filing is election interference. Here's how it became public.
Thu Oct 3, 2024, 04:06 PM
Thursday

I am shocked that TFG's made the 60 day and other election interference claims in filings. These claims are frivolous and should be sanctioned. I love how Judge Chutkan asked "how this court is bound by or has jurisdiction to enforce Department of Justice policy."



https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/trump-misleads-claim-jack-smith-filing-election-interference-rcna173795

Former President Donald Trump and his campaign have accused special counsel Jack Smith of violating long-standing Justice Department norms by including new revelations about the former president's efforts to overturn his 2020 election loss in a filing released Wednesday.

In reality, a federal judge, not Smith, made the decision to release that filing to the public.....

Chutkan has repeatedly made clear in court hearings that Trump’s presidential run and campaign schedule — despite the protestations of Trump’s team — will have no impact on the criminal case before her. The judge made that point explicitly in an order last month, writing that Trump’s “concern with the political consequences of these proceedings does not bear on the pretrial schedule.”.....

Smith's team suggested, Chutkan reviewed the brief and ultimately decided that the redactions were appropriate. Chutkan also responded to Trump's earlier complaints about potentially violating the 60-day rule, writing on Sept. 24 that his team could now explain "how this court is bound by or has jurisdiction to enforce Department of Justice policy.".....

The 60-day period does not apply to judges, nor does it generally apply to pending cases, although that's always subject to discretion if prosecutors want to avoid taking certain actions even in pending cases. Chuck Rosenberg, a Justice Department veteran and NBC News legal analyst, said Smith's team was doing things by the book.

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